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[so offer a clue, as i believe in the Constitution, ... Well, how about that -- a faith-based constitutionalist. Are you anticipating its resurrection? 
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Government requiring a "photo Id " to purchase a common consumer product but objects to the same "restrictions" on voting ? Most curious ! >Mech
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Of course, Mech, different governments. And possibly the right to vote is a bit more important?
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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Not to nit picks, but why is one right more important than others? Shouldn't rights be in equality?
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Think about it Rick, would you be willing to give up your vote in order to buy drainer?
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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' If you have blocked drains, it is more sensible to go up on the roof with a hose and run a stream of water down the vent pipe for the drains (after putting stoppers in the sink, of course!). Actually that will only work if the blockage is located AFTER the sewer trap, which is a U shaped double bend in the pipe directlty below the drain. The function of the trap is to allow a certain level of water to remain IN the drainpipe to prevent the odor of sewer gas from creeping up. The vent pipe cannot possibly be located BEFORE the trap. " And as you may or may not know, most clogs are in the trap itself.
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I would think that such a law would be thrown out because it unfairly discriminates against those who cannot afford or for other reasons cannot easily or conveniently obtain photo ID.  Possibly courts consider protection of the right to vote on a different scale than the right to buy drain cleaner But that said... presuming that your point is that it is reasonable to ask for a photo ID in order to vote.... I pretty much agree.
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
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I do agree with NUMAN! that drain cleaner for cleaning drains is largely a fraud.
On the subject of photo I.D., I'm not seeing how the presentation of one to qualify for the purchase of drain cleaner or spray paint is linked to the prevention of human injury or tagging.
Regarding I.D. and voting, I am more ambivalent. But given the apparent lack of evidence that vote fraud exists in a way that would be prevented by requiring photo I.D.'s, I don't see the point.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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I do agree with NUMAN! that drain cleaner for cleaning drains is largely a fraud. But water down the vent pipes won't clear a clog that's in the trap, sorry. What works best is actually just a simple small and flexible snake. Not the big heavy kind used by plumbers...that's the big nuke of last resort. A small bore, very flexible heavy nylon probe on a reel will do the trick in 90 percent of the cases.
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Or you can often unscrew the trap and clean it out in maybe five minutes.
It just occurred to me that in the movies, when you see someone trying to retrieve a ring from having gone down the drain, they take apart the trap under the sink and water spews everywhere... NUMAN! must be on the roof helping!
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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