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' I also wrote, "But, you do make a good point in suggesting that more facts are needed before the fellow is hung out to dry by popular opinion." I agree with you, Issodhos. My gut reaction is to want to throw Zimmermann over a cliff into a sea of excrement, but my intellectual drive to avoid a "rush to judgment" (because that velocity is so quintessentially American?) is stronger. First, to the best of our ability, we should gather all the facts -- then judge. Moreover, because of all the emotional muddle this case has generated, it may, in fact, prevent a proper trial and permit the perpetrator to avoid just punishment.
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' There is now a special prosecutor appointed by Gov. Rick Scott of Florida. That is usually the infallible sign that truth is going to be covered up.
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Iss, I'm going to ask you nicely to withdraw your personal and completely unsupported attack in the thread above. I don't know what the hell you're talking about, NW. The only posting I have made that referenced you was one in which I gave you a tip-of-the-hat for seeking to find out more about what happened.
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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My apologies, Issodhos, I read the statement I also wrote, "But, you do make a good point in suggesting that more facts are needed before the fellow is hung out to dry by popular opinion." by the way, If you look at his posts above, NW seems to be doing just that.  Issodhos as that I was hanging him out to dry, not that I was searching out more info. I sincerely regret my outburst. I've been too quick to temper of late, and that is not like me.
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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LT, I wonder why there isn't a thread here regarding the mayhem - 10 dead, 46 wounded - in "SYG-Free" Chicago last week ? Where's the MSM "'blitz" on the Windy City wars ? Why isn't the President commenting on some possible "sons" there ?
Instead we have the makings of another Ox-Bow Incident fueled by the rantings of race-baiting opportunistic shysters, the usual acronymic conglomeration of anti gun orgs - all of which, BTW, have apparently declined to respond to questions from conservative members of the firearms community - compounded by the knee-jerk reactions of the lame stream media. Even our President (apparently having leaned nothing from the Brooks incident ) has weighed in with his patented inane commentary !
All of this pretty much guarantees the shooter can't be tried anywhere ! And perhaps that is the "objective" ! An administration teetering on the brink having its chief LEO being indicted for contempt, (with possible criminal proceedings for key players across the gamut of enforcement agencies ) mist be in desperate need of a diversion . Even better one involving the possible misuse of a firearm. Now only if the Oval Office/MSM/Hoplophobes were as outraged over some 300 Mexican national's deaths ! >Mech
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LT, I wonder why there isn't a thread here regarding the mayhem - 10 dead, 46 wounded - in "SYG-Free" Chicago last week ? Where's the MSM "'blitz" on the Windy City wars ? Why isn't the President commenting on some possible "sons" there ?
Instead we have the makings of another Ox-Bow Incident fueled by the rantings of race-baiting opportunistic shysters, the usual acronymic conglomeration of anti gun orgs - all of which, BTW, have apparently declined to respond to questions from conservative members of the firearms community - compounded by the knee-jerk reactions of the lame stream media. Even our President (apparently having leaned nothing from the Brooks incident ) has weighed in with his patented inane commentary !
All of this pretty much guarantees the shooter can't be tried anywhere ! And perhaps that is the "objective" ! An administration teetering on the brink having its chief LEO being indicted for contempt, (with possible criminal proceedings for key players across the gamut of enforcement agencies ) mist be in desperate need of a diversion . Even better one involving the possible misuse of a firearm. Now only if the Oval Office/MSM/Hoplophobes were as outraged over some 300 Mexican national's deaths ! >Mech Went right over my head. Are you posting in Ukrainian and then having the computer translate into English? 
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Good ol' Cooper. I do miss his "corner". :-)
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the shyster after all?
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LT, I wonder why there isn't a thread here regarding the mayhem - 10 dead, 46 wounded - in "SYG-Free" Chicago last week ? Where's the MSM "'blitz" on the Windy City wars ? Why isn't the President commenting on some possible "sons" there ?
Instead we have the makings of another Ox-Bow Incident fueled by the rantings of race-baiting opportunistic shysters, the usual acronymic conglomeration of anti gun orgs - all of which, BTW, have apparently declined to respond to questions from conservative members of the firearms community - compounded by the knee-jerk reactions of the lame stream media. Even our President (apparently having leaned nothing from the Brooks incident ) has weighed in with his patented inane commentary !
All of this pretty much guarantees the shooter can't be tried anywhere ! And perhaps that is the "objective" ! An administration teetering on the brink having its chief LEO being indicted for contempt, (with possible criminal proceedings for key players across the gamut of enforcement agencies ) mist be in desperate need of a diversion . Even better one involving the possible misuse of a firearm. Now only if the Oval Office/MSM/Hoplophobes were as outraged over some 300 Mexican national's deaths ! >Mech Went right over my head. Are you posting in Ukrainian and then having the computer translate into English? thank you. i was sensing gibberish as well. typically the fall for one who has no real arguement to stand on.
sure, you can talk to god, but if you don't listen then what's the use? so, onward through the fog!
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I think, LT, going "over" your head implies a quality that isn't readily apparent. Talking past, nonsequiturial, perhaps. Over? Don't think so.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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