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Originally Posted by Ma_Republican
Forget for a moment that allowing the mandate to stand could allow (most likely would eventually) the Federal government to dictate how every American spends their paycheck.
Gee, MaR, doesn't the government do that already, and hasn't it been doing so for centuries. It is called TAXES!!

Mind you, I agree that a government, by fair means or foul, should be denied as much revenue as possible as long as it supports a wasteful, corrupt, evil war machine.

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It doesn't matter that you believe it hasn't happened yet, because it actually has. The EPA is an all powerful entity who can destroy people at its whim, can create rules without input from Congress and can crush any industry it wants. But you believe that the Federal government wouldn't use that newly appointed power?
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ROFL. Seriously, Ma R. I really mean that. Seriously? The EPA is an all powerful entity bent on the destruction of industry? Any evidence of that? Any examples? Any fantasy scenarios where this has occurred?

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Now there you have a point, as we saw what GW Bush did with that authority for the first 6 years of his disastrous presidency - including the recession he gave to his successor. I happen to also agree that a Santorum presidency would make the Bush debacle measured by comparison. So there are some things that we agree on, except, of course, the object of your paranoia.

Power unused is power wasted, in politics there is no such thing as potential energy. I do not want the Federal Government to have the abilities that a yes vote on the mandate would give them. I have no doubts in my mind that Congress would find a reason to use it, because they could. The Supreme Court, the highest authority in the land will have given them their blessing to use that power as they will.

I will take my chances with the status quo, or another future BIPARTISAN effort that isn't 2700 pages long and that isn't sold to me by one of its authors saying that it had to be passed to know what was included in it.

I am paranoid of unlimited power being invested in 600 people. I am paranoid of the outcome when another peter principle candidate wins because he is a celebrity. I do not trust Washington, I will never trust Washington and I believe that America would be better off with Washington being defuunded and having to panhandle for their budget.

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I won't be that bad Ma. Personally speaking I look forward to my 3 allotted solid colored jumpsuits and matching hard hat that we'll all be getting if the ACA passes. I hope I get the blue ones and not the menial orange colored ones. I've noticed that they're more numerous and always getting crushed in the monster movies.
Perhaps if I apply myself I might get a white jumpsuit and all that comes with it. Higher apartment unit in the domicile towers. More time units for the communal 2 cylinder plywood commute vehicle and an occasional pass to my zone's food distribution center.
It sounds down right comfy. No wonder Yurrip, Canadians and Japan are so smug about their healthcare systems.

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Originally Posted by chunkstyle
... No wonder Yurrip, Canadians and Japan are so smug about their healthcare systems.
Don't forget the French - who I believe has the best healthcare system. There everyone gets basic healthcare for being a French citizen. If you want plastic surgery or other elective non-life-threatening medical care - you pay for it by buying insurance.


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You included 'the French' in 'Yirrup' - never mind. blush


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Fontline did a great article on healthcare around the world titled: Sick around the World


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It sounds down right comfy. No wonder Yurrip, Canadians and Japan are so smug about their healthcare systems.
And with good reason.

Especially in comparison with the incompetent flounderings of America around this issue.

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I am paranoid of unlimited power being invested in 600 people
just what number is agreeable with you? or do you understand the concept of constitutional republic?

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America would be better off with Washington being defuunded
so you are for no government?

now i understand


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During the time of the Roman Republic, the Dictator, Sulla, decreed that the number of Roman Senators be fixed at 600.

So, how did that work out?

(Oh, yes, the Republic collapsed soon afterward!!)

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