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I did not think that you had actually made a "point"
sorry if one has to actually do some thinking to figure out what another says ... i wonder how we ever advanced so far in human history without thinking

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yes and your response suggested the scenario i outlined ... and i asked if that is not the case to please provide the details of what you actually believe

i think i hit the nail on the head ... but with people who define words at their own convenience it may be hard to tell

anyway as usual i don;t expect a real response


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What are you gonna do, outlaw lathes and milling equipment?
It may not be a terribly long time until no one in America is left who has the skill to operate machinery of this nature.
As our population grows our technical skills seem to be in decline.
Burgers and fries don't need to be made to extremely close tolerances.
I think you make a very good point, Greger.
Schools and the Brainwashing Machine have left most young people with greatly diminished powers of concentration, and their familiarity with independent action is also impaired.
Just today a friend was telling me about some young people who had difficulty in understanding that they needed to go to the four corners of a tent to co-operate in folding it up.
School and other activities make them passive, waiting to be issued instructions for all the activities they do.
When I was a kid, I was brainwashed by American schooling, but after school I was relatively free and by myself -- I would ride my bike around, work on my own projects, drop by friends' houses to visit, and so on.
Today, so many kids never have a moment to be free, alone, and figure things out for themselves. If they aren't being brainwashed in school, they are, with great expense and wastefulness, being driven hither-and-yon to go to supervised "activities," lessons, "play-dates," etc. And if by some miscalculation a crevice of free time yawns before them, it is filled with movies, TV, computers and computer games, so that their brainwashing and conditioning are never interrupted.
I feel very sorry for these poor zombie children -- they don't have a chance.

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Originally Posted by Greger
Burgers and fries don't need to be made to extremely close tolerances.

They will probably be banned in the not too distant future, but until then .....


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CANADIAN GUN CONTROL: SHOULD THE... A SOLUTION TO ITS FIREARMS PROBLEM?
CANADIAN GUN CONTROL: SHOULD THE UNITED STATES LOOK NORTH FOR A SOLUTION TO ITS FIREARMS PROBLEM?

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A man on a saddle with rifle and revolver symbolized the west in both nations. America's character was the independent cowboy, and Canada's was the Royal North-West Mounted Policeman. In fact, the Lone Ranger would have been an outlaw in Canada, since Canadian law forbade carrying a firearm while "masked or disguised."
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While there is sometimes heated debate about which long guns should be restricted weapons, there is no such debate about handguns. All handguns are restricted.
To receive a Restricted Weapon Registration Certificate, an applicant has the burden of proving that the gun will be used for one of four purposes:
(1) to protect life where other protection is inadequate;
(2) in connection with a lawful profession or occupation;
(3) for use in target practice under the auspices of a shooting club; and
(4) as part of a gun collection by a "bona fide gun collector."
The first step for a prospective handgun purchaser will typically be to join a shooting club and to shoot with club members' guns at the range. Some clubs may observe the applicant for a while before writing a letter of recommendation to the police to attest that the applicant may be entrusted with a handgun....
After paying for a handgun or other restricted weapon...the applicant must take the detailed bill of sale to the Registrar of Firearms at a local police station. The Registrar completes an Application to Register a Restricted Weapon for the applicant. At this time, the applicant may show his shooting club recommendation. The police run a background check....Some police precincts conduct personal interviews in the applicant's home. The police may also visit the location where the applicant intends to store the handgun to ensure that the gun will be locked up. Interviews with neighbors and employers are not uncommon....A Permit to Convey allows the citizen to pick up his gun from the gun dealer, bring it to the police station for verification of registration information, and then take the gun to his residence or place of business.
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They will probably be banned
yeah it is unfortunate that the FDA requires burgers to be burned at 165 to kill bacteria ... what an infringement of the right of people to eat mooing burgers while puking their guts all over each other before exiting their favorite fast food joint



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Originally Posted by Greger
Despite the need for that document to be updated ever so slightly there is no chance it will happen within our lifetimes.

Perhaps simply a return to it? :-)

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on Fox News Sunday, broadcast July 29, 2012 Scalia said rocket launchers could be Constitutional (his arguments are steeped in originalism) ... this delusional SCJ simply doesn;t know where this could lead ... i see small tactical nuclear devices as the new weapon of choice of the paranoid and demented and Scalia probably can argue they are Constitutional ... where are the Founders when one needs a rational opinion

brings a new meaning to "stand your ground" and "keep off my property"



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Originally Posted by Greger
Despite the need for that document to be updated ever so slightly there is no chance it will happen within our lifetimes.

Perhaps simply a return to it? :-)

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That, I'm afraid, would be equally impossible as Congress has made many amendments and the SCOTUS has allowed a broadening of the original document, including amendments, to cover things never imagined by the Founders.
As much as one might like to return to simpler times I'm afraid it simply isn't possible.
Ultimately however, due to economic collapse and/or climate change, simpler times may return and with them a government and a populace more willing to compromise for the common good. It isn't something that can be forced one way or the other though.


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economic collapse and/or climate change

I believe this is the back story for the Hunger Games.


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Hekate, it's the core of the story.
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