Martha. I'm with you this afternoon. I just received some bad news about someone for whom I had great respect. I keep hoping for some solution or even a plan for a solution and there is none here or anywhere. When the discussion gets into the meat grinder, it gets nasty and often insulting. I should know better but I keep thinking we can get over some of our old arguments and at least try for something positive. I will stop pushing for anything here. My memory is failing and I forget past argements and the reasons for them so I should move on to another site where maybe there are no hard feelings and we can take a new look at an old problem.

None of us should change our minds on what we want for a government. Fermi's quotes are old and I think silly. I have little respect for those who are quoted.

I'll see you on the other forum where we can chat about beautiful things like cats. BTW, Willie took a fall off the bed on Sunday and grabbed my upper arm to try and brake the fall. I have a tear in my skin but taped it shut so I could swim yesterday and today. He's my 30 pound baby and I adore him; I just wish he had better balance. Emma's tail is losing the swelling so all is well again. I'll get over my depression and read "Two Little Girls in Blue" which I've had since it came out and simply lost it in my bookcase. I need a good murder mystery to get through the evening.