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Almost nothing, short of seeing the sun come up in the west, would be more astounding.

There is absolutely nothing that would cause a sufficient "handful" of Republicans to defy Bush. Not now. Not next week. Not next year. Not until January, 2009, when Bush sails off into the west, singing, "We were on the road to victory when I was President" all the way.

There is a greater liklihood of aliens landing on the White House lawn than Republicans will show greater loyalty to their country than to their Party.

Guaranteed.

I will publicly apologize to every contrary posting person on this board. I promise! That is how confident I am that the Republican Party demands, and receives the total loyalty of their Congressional delegation, without sufficient numbers to ever hit the threshold to halt a Republican fillibuster or over ride a Bush veto.

I make that offer regardless of anyone else's contra promise, because I know that the real agenda of the "it's all the Democrat's fault" agenda is to detract sufficient votes to hopeless third-party candidates so Republicans can return to Congressional control and retain the White House.



Just to repeat. What, exactly, would you have the Democrats do? Cast 67 votes with their 50 members to override Bush's guaranteed veto of any bill that does not meet Rove's criteria? Cast 61 of their 50 votes to end guaranteed Republican fillibusters of budgets that do not include Iraq funding to Bush decreed levels?

Or do we get to be treated to "Democrats are as bad as Republicans" for the next two years, when thrown-away votes for "perfect" Third-party candidates bring back 100% Republican rule? Because that is the only actually action that I have ever heard from anyone who blames Democrats for everything.

Jesse Ventura is right...we have one more choice than the Soviets had...big hairy deal.

Been watchin' Rudy and the other white divorcees chest thumpin' and calling the Democrats weak and wimpy all week.

None of them will take questions from their base on YouTube, though.

Too damned scary.

That's why you have to watch what they do and not pay so much attention to their mouth parts.

A few points, Philadelphia Steve. It seems you are agreeing that the Democratic leadership is basing its strategy on a "sure thing".

Secondly, I don't care what you Democrats do. All I expected of a Democratic return to power was that some in the Party would act as a slight stumbling block to the administration's future plans for the Mideast (e.g., fellows like Senator Webb).

I also would expect Democrats to stop demanding that others provide them with a "plan" and, if it pleases them to do so, to instead come up with one themselves -- I mean a plan beyond not seriously rocking the boat until after the '08 elections. It is your party. Your win. If your fellow Democrats are upset at having been misled by all the pre-election mumbo jumbo coming from the Democratic Party leadership, then direct your ire at them -- but for those of us who may not be willing to enfranchise either major party's candidate with the temporary authority to wield power as a result of our vote, or for those of us who are going to cast a principled vote for a candidate of a minor party whom we judge to be worthy of occupying the office of the presidency, expect us to exercise our Right to be critical of both the utterly corrupt Democratic and the utterly corrupt Republican parties, if for no other reason than it being entertainment of a sort in an otherwise dismal decade.;-)
Yours,
Issodhos

I have been doing some reading on the Founding Fathers, and have reluctantly concluded that their original intent was for America to grow into a fundamentalist theocracy propped up by a kleptocratic war profiteering police state that would eventually remove all civil liberties from non-wealthy Americans on the premise of fighting a never ending war on a transitive adverb.

Perhaps I've missed something along the way but just who are these minor party candidates you and others deem worthy of occupying the white house? Have you a favorite? What are his qualifications? Those are the actual questions I would pose, these are more rhetorical. Where has this patriot been who would lead our nation to glory? Why hasn't anyone noticed him? Is he so incorruptible that once given the godlike powers of the presidency he wouldn't abuse them? Could his background withstand the scrutiny given the candidates of major parties? Why hasn't he chosen to work within the two party system to affect his superior ability to lead? If he is a current member of congress why didn't his fellow congresspeople chose him to represent them? Millions of Americans know that our current system is in dire need of an upgrade, most are not happy with the choice between say Giulliani and Clinton, why is there no effective whispering campaign which might make him more of a threat to the status quo? Is he just some idealogue who's ideology most suits your own and so you will chose to stroke his ego to avoid choosing between the parties who are and will remain in power?
Ron Paul might make an excellent third party candidate but last I heard he was a Republican and has been unable to sway his own party from an obviously self-destructive path, how would he or another manage to sway the course of the nation?
Any of the three top contenders in the Democratic party would be far superior to any of the Republicans. Given the choice between the two we can choose to stay the course or change it.
I tend to bet on horses that will finish the race, who are these dark horses and why are they worthy of your vote?

We've seen them over the past half-century.

Their names have been:
George Wallace
Ross Perot
Ralph Nader

They have given us presidents:
Richard Nixon
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush.

Now--that is funny. Good job Fermi!

Ken,
Feel free to paraphrase it. (I did).

I think a guy who goes by tofobu penned the original, but he may have lifted it as well. Ecclesiastes said there's nothing new under the Sun. And he lifted that!

And then they wrote 1984 to explain it all.