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Police Cameras Ouside Your Door[/b]The ACLU of Michigan recently put out an interesting report on surveillance cameras. Like other ACLU reports on cameras (such as those by our affiliates in Illinois and Northern California, and the materials on our national site) it summarizes the policy arguments against cameras. But it also focuses on a uniquely disturbing application of surveillance cameras: their deployment in residential neighborhoods. [b]How about in your backyard?
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Good to see you back, Joe, we've missed you.
There are surveillance cameras all over my neighborhood. Camouflaged and strapped to trees. Most are trained on wildlife feeders but a few are located to keep us informed of the comings and goings in the neighborhood.
Big Brother is being watched too.
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Police Cameras Ouside Your Door[/b]The ACLU of Michigan recently put out an interesting report on surveillance cameras. Like other ACLU reports on cameras (such as those by our affiliates in Illinois and Northern California, and the materials on our national site) it summarizes the policy arguments against cameras. But it also focuses on a uniquely disturbing application of surveillance cameras: their deployment in residential neighborhoods. [b]How about in your backyard? New York has them on practically every street corner. Big Brother has been watching for a long time. That's not to mention the FBI and the NSA monitoring email, phone calls, text, twitter... I always wondered if there was any real legal fight that could be won against this type of surveillance.
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The Supreme Court has ended a 6-year-old class-action lawsuit against the nation's telecommunications carriers for secretly helping the National Security Agency monitor phone calls and emails coming into and out of this country.
The suit was dealt a death blow in 2008 when Congress granted retroactive immunity to people or companies aiding U.S. intelligence agents.
Without comment, the justices turned down appeals from civil liberties advocates who contended this mass surveillance was unconstitutional and illegal.
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I think the SC has been complicit with the government in their effort to maintain opacity from public scrutiny.
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The Supreme Court has ended a 6-year-old class-action lawsuit against the nation's telecommunications carriers for secretly helping the National Security Agency monitor phone calls and emails coming into and out of this country.
The suit was dealt a death blow in 2008 when Congress granted retroactive immunity to people or companies aiding U.S. intelligence agents.
Without comment, the justices turned down appeals from civil liberties advocates who contended this mass surveillance was unconstitutional and illegal. It figures!! 
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New York has them on practically every street corner. Big Brother has been watching for a long time. That's not to mention the FBI and the NSA monitoring email, phone calls, text, twitter...
I always wondered if there was any real legal fight that could be won against this type of surveillance. I remember reading about how the authorities concealed some video surveillance cameras on the light posts and elsewhere in Miami a number of years ago and the people rioted and destroyed the ones that they could find, which ended that experiment then. If Big Brother, or even his little brother in the local police force, wants to monitor any aspect of your life, they will. The so-called "war of drugs" was the initial excuse. Many years ago I wrote that the recently introduced "Patriot Act" just legalized what the government had been doing all along. In theory, there are legal remedies. In theory.
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The Supreme Court has ended a 6-year-old class-action lawsuit against the nation's telecommunications carriers for secretly helping the National Security Agency monitor phone calls and emails coming into and out of this country.
The suit was dealt a death blow in 2008 when Congress granted retroactive immunity to people or companies aiding U.S. intelligence agents.
Without comment, the justices turned down appeals from civil liberties advocates who contended this mass surveillance was unconstitutional and illegal. Is this the same court that made a corporation a person? How about some court ruling that banks and other financial institutions can use depositors' accounts as collateral? Hey, didn't the "Honorable" Jon Corzine at IMF dip into some segregated depositor's accounts and "liberate" their money for his own gamblinginvesting? He misplaced over a billion in private depositor accounts and can't find it.
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New York has them on practically every street corner. Big Brother has been watching for a long time. That's not to mention the FBI and the NSA monitoring email, phone calls, text, twitter...
I always wondered if there was any real legal fight that could be won against this type of surveillance. I remember reading about how the authorities concealed some video surveillance cameras on the light posts and elsewhere in Miami a number of years ago and the people rioted and destroyed the ones that they could find, which ended that experiment then. If Big Brother, or even his little brother in the local police force, wants to monitor any aspect of your life, they will. The so-called "war of drugs" was the initial excuse. Many years ago I wrote that the recently introduced "Patriot Act" just legalized what the government had been doing all along. In theory, there are legal remedies. In theory. The powers that be will always find a justification for spying on their own citizens. And if they can do it out in the open so much the better, it reduces the risk of legal challenge. The sooner people realize that we are already living in a police state, the easier it will be to create a truly popular reaction against this. Obviously, that's a lot easier said than done. 
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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