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Your welcome  SO now that is settled, let's move on... 
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You're welcome  SO now that is settled, let's move on...  I would like to hear from anyone who can find an example of a war or intervention that they believe did not have economic motivation.
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I would like to hear from anyone who can find an example of a war or intervention that they believe did not have economic motivation. Please clarify; do you mean as the only motivator, or do you mean as one of the motivators?
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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I would like to hear from anyone who can find an example of a war or intervention that they believe did not have economic motivation. Please clarify; do you mean as the only motivator, or do you mean as one of the motivators? Had NO economic motivation.
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I would like to hear from anyone who can find an example of a war or intervention that they believe did not have economic motivation. Please clarify; do you mean as the only motivator, or do you mean as one of the motivators? Had NO economic motivation. I don't think anyone on this thread ever came close to claiming that there have been wars with no economic motivation. I don't claim it. I agree with Scoutgal's post of absurdities, and Ardy's observations about complexity, and rporter's statement of assuming a mix of motivations, that it's not a stretch to assume that economic motivations are ubiquitous in all interactions.
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...it's not a stretch to assume that economic motivations are ubiquitous in all interactions. That being the case, how would one define (from an unbiased historical perspective, IF such a thing is possible) what the MAIN motivation of a war or intervention was?
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...it's not a stretch to assume that economic motivations are ubiquitous in all interactions. That being the case, how would one define (from an unbiased historical perspective, IF such a thing is possible) what the MAIN motivation of a war or intervention was? I really don't think we can. As I stated earlier, you can find that there is some kind of economic factor in every type of life on this planet. From humans all the way to one cell protozoa. I would say that it might be the survival instinct. And if you cannot adapt or overcome those who try to take over, you go extinct-like the Dodo bird or the dinosaur.
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...it's not a stretch to assume that economic motivations are ubiquitous in all interactions. That being the case, how would one define (from an unbiased historical perspective, IF such a thing is possible) what the MAIN motivation of a war or intervention was? I dunno - how would you (seeing as it's your point, and all)? Why do you think it matters?
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...it's not a stretch to assume that economic motivations are ubiquitous in all interactions. That being the case, how would one define (from an unbiased historical perspective, IF such a thing is possible) what the MAIN motivation of a war or intervention was? I dunno - how would you (seeing as it's your point, and all)? Why do you think it matters? I am asking a question. I don't know the answer. It matters for the reasons I previously stated. I take it your answer is "I dunno"?
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My answer is, "I don't care". Do you care?
I don't know what reasons you previously stated.
I'd give your question a YOTF rating of 0.5.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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