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"Do not regret
that we have still in history to suffer
or comrade that we are the agents
of a dialectic that can destroy us..."
Hamish Henderson
Elegies for the Dead in Cyrenaica
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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It's an interesting thing, having a fundamentalist belief in God, where the natural effect should be somewhat like a dope-smoker's acceptance of things as they is -so why are so many religious fundamentalists fixated on trying to change the way things is, often resorting to force? (Perhaps there is an underlying religio/economic motivator?)
One might speculate that war is an unintended consequence of the existence of a fundamentalist's God.
I wonder what Hamish Henderson has to teach us about that?
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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... -so why are so many religious fundamentalists fixated on trying to change the way things is, often resorting to force? (Perhaps there is an underlying religio/economic motivator?) Control? " There were our own, there were the others.
Their deaths were like their lives, human and animal.
There were no gods and precious few heroes.
What they regretted when they died had nothing to do with
race and leader, realm indivisible,
laboured Augustan speeches or vague imperial heritage." Hamish Henderson
Elegies for the Dead in Cyrenaica
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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... -so why are so many religious fundamentalists fixated on trying to change the way things is, often resorting to force? (Perhaps there is an underlying religio/economic motivator?) Control? " There were our own, there were the others.
Their deaths were like their lives, human and animal.
There were no gods and precious few heroes.
What they regretted when they died had nothing to do with
race and leader, realm indivisible,
laboured Augustan speeches or vague imperial heritage." Hamish Henderson
Elegies for the Dead in CyrenaicaExactly- Give the man a prize! 
milk and Girl Scout cookies ;-)
Save your breath-You may need it to blow up your date.
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' It's an interesting thing, having a fundamentalist belief in God, where the natural effect should be somewhat like a dope-smoker's acceptance of things as they is -so why are so many religious fundamentalists fixated on trying to change the way things is, often resorting to force? (Perhaps there is an underlying religio/economic motivator?)
One might speculate that war is an unintended consequence of the existence of a fundamentalist's God. All through history, intolerance has been a marked characteristic of monotheism, and the monotheistic West. Since the monotheistic God is the Only Truth, all that "opposes" the Truth (including heretics) must be converted to the Truth, or destroyed. "Jihadism" has been miniscule in the history of, say, Buddhism or Daoism, compared to the rampages of destruction characteristic of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
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I'm happy to see that my article, "Mali War Not Linked to Al Queda--Western Press Lying" has sparked interest and discussion in this Capital Hill Blue Forum. You can read the rest of the piece by clicking on the title at the beginning of the discussion or by "googling" Truman Green's Science Rumours and scrolling down to the article.
Truman Green
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Welcome to Reader Rant, Truman Green. We hope you will stick around and participate in our forums.
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I'm still wondering what the "unintended consequences" are that the topic is about.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
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I'm still wondering what the "unintended consequences" are that the topic is about. I guess that would require you to read the article --- or at least the quote from it at the beginning of this thread.
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I'm still wondering what the "unintended consequences" are that the topic is about. I guess that would require you to read the article --- or at least the quote from it at the beginning of this thread. Geez, noomie, I did but it wasn't very interesting. I guess that's why the thread went off-topic and stayed there. I just thought that you had more interest in it since you were the OP and you like for threads to stay on-topic. I guess a summary of attitudes is that nobody who posted thinks war is generally a very good idea, so there's that. Okey-dokey.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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