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Out of curiosity, 25 pages into this thread, I went back and discovered that the thread had left the original premise on the first page, and apparently hasn't drifted back since. 24-pages of off-topic discussion. Still, it's a discussion. Maybe a thread rename is in order.
TO review the discussion
There are the pious rationales that are fed to the public in order to start a war. These "objectives: are seldom accomplished.
There is the hidden agenda of economic benifit. Wars also mostly fail to accomplish these goals.
All the rest of it... that is what actually results from a war... that all falls under the heading of "unintended consequences."
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel