WE NEED YOUR HELP! Please donate to keep ReaderRant online to serve political discussion and its members. (Blue Ridge Photography pays the bills for RR).
Current Topics
Trump 2.0
by Irked - 03/14/25 10:00 AM
2024 Election Forum
by rporter314 - 03/11/25 11:16 PM
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 16 guests, and 0 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Agnostic Politico, Jems, robertjohn, BlackCat13th, ruggedman
6,305 Registered Users
Popular Topics(Views)
10,260,915 my own book page
5,051,279 We shall overcome
4,250,718 Campaign 2016
3,856,322 Trump's Trumpet
3,055,489 3 word story game
Top Posters
pdx rick 47,430
Scoutgal 27,583
Phil Hoskins 21,134
Greger 19,831
Towanda 19,391
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
Irked 1
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics17,128
Posts314,539
Members6,305
Most Online294
Dec 6th, 2017
Today's Birthdays
Buzzard's Roost, Troyota
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 2 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 12,004
Likes: 133
L
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
L
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 12,004
Likes: 133
Originally Posted by logtroll
...Another says he trusts public opinion (at least that which he agrees with) more than the "opinions" of climate scientists, because the scientists have a conflict of interest....
I must point out that Public Opinion, given that it knows nothing without any facts provided by scientists, is incorruptible. That is is a fair, if irrational, point. Scientists, on the other hand, have the knowledge and therefor the power to corrupt the knowledge.

Let's trust the folks who don't know squat, for they be the Truth Tellers! Bow


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,010
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,010
It seems to me that ignorant populism is an inherent problem with democracy

I think the founders were aware of the problem. And tried their best to compensate. Representative democracy. The senate. The electoral college. An independent judiciary. The construction. All these things were to act as brakes on the whim of stampedeing public opinion

But with the rise of Msm. The concentration of Msm. The Internet. Massive concentration of wealth. And the will to use that wealth to influence politics. The increased sophistication of political operatives and their strategies. A. Court that feels bound to unchain these forces.

For all these reasons and more our nation is less directed by leadership. And increasingly riding vortexs of pandering. And sad to say. It is a reflection. Of our democracy and its inherent weaknesses.


"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
Ardy #274106 09/20/14 10:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 27,583
Administrator
Bionic Scribe
Offline
Administrator
Bionic Scribe
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 27,583
Ardy~All what you said, plus we let money and banking into the system, and the Military Industrial Complex. Thomas Jefferson warned us about the first, and Dwight D Eisenhower warned us about the second. We listened to neither. They both must be looking down at us, shaking their heads and feeling like Cassandra from the Trojan War. frown


milk and Girl Scout cookies ;-)

Save your breath-You may need it to blow up your date.




Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 12,004
Likes: 133
L
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
L
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 12,004
Likes: 133
Yet another contraindication of the substance of the GOP, as presented by the close runner-up in a recent presidential candidate straw poll.

Ben Carson sez..., in effect, "Obama policies and actions will pre-empt the 2016 elections cuz a anarchy, onless Republicans control everything!"

Hunnnh?! Let me see... the party of shrinking da gummit until it can be drowned in the bathtub is going to save the government from anarchy?

Logtrollicktionary:

1. n. anarchy (ann arkee); what you git when da gummit has been drowneded to death in da bathtub.
2. v. ANARKY!!; shouting lies to inflame irrational emotions in gullible voters to implement the GOP Rule of the Opposite Thang.


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 18,003
Likes: 191
Moderator
Carpal Tunnel
OP Offline
Moderator
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 18,003
Likes: 191
Can we finally admit, publicly, that the GOP has nothing of substance to offer?


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 12,129
Likes: 257
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 12,129
Likes: 257
Quote
the GOP has nothing of substance to offer

Well, not unless you are very rich, and need some "special" legislation to help you keep more or make more money. I imagine the Koch brothers find the GOP quite useful.

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 21,134
Administrator
Bionic Scribe
Offline
Administrator
Bionic Scribe
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 21,134
One of the factors that led me to quit the Justice Department in 1967 was the realization, after speaking with other movement workers in other agencies, that the game is played as an opposition so that the rest of us are too mesmerized to realize we are being raped -- by north parties.


Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame
You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,245
Likes: 33
K
old hand
Offline
old hand
K
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,245
Likes: 33
True Phil. My wife was in politics years ago at the local level. City Council to be specific. She went into it wide eyed and was there “to do good”. In her mind anyway.

She was quickly taken aside and asked “Why are you here if you are not out to make money?”



Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 12,004
Likes: 133
L
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
L
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 12,004
Likes: 133
Might have mentioned elsewhere that I am reading Mr. Sammler's Planet (Saul Bellow). Sammler is an old intellectual in NYC and the reader tags along viewing the world though his eyes. A major story element involves Sammler's accidental repeated observations of a pickpocket working the buses of the transit system. All too soon, the pickpocket, a powerful and supremely confident man, observes that Mr. M. has been observing him.

After about the fourth incident (watching the thief roll a petrified old guy on the bus and take his social security check), Sammler fears that the pickpocket will follow him home and accost him. After a hasty exit from the bus; "The tachycardia now running itself out, he was able to walk, though not at the usual rate. His stratagem was to cross Riverside Drive and enter the first building, as if he lived there. He had beaten the pickpocket to the door. Maybe effrontery would dismiss him as too negligible to pursue. The man did not seem to feel threatened by anyone. Took the slackness, the cowardice of the world for granted." (emphasis mine)

Now, my imagination may be overactive, but I am seeing correlations between Mr. Sammler and the Democrats, and the pickpocket to Republicans.

I should mention that the pickpocket does corner Mr. Sammler, physically and forcefully backing him into a corner and displaying his large dick.

Reminds me of the recent midterm elections and the spending bill passage.


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,010
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,010
imo there is nothing wrong with the gop that could not be fixed through intellectual integrity and a genuine concern for the national interest

Last edited by Ardy; 12/16/14 04:17 AM.

"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
Page 2 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5