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What I can't stand about conservative Republicans are their lies:
  • MLK was a Republican
  • 98% of Scientists say there is no global warming
  • The Democrats invented racism and the KKK (Democrats were the original conservatives - look at which party conservatives belong to now)
  • (...and their biggest lie) They're Independents (like they ever would vote for a Democrat. Wigga please.)


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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
...Where did all the reasonable conservatives go?
They died off? Hmm


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
We should keep in mind that there are lots of people who are getting paid to comment on the public fora. Their comments may have little connection with their actual beliefs. They just need to follow the "script" to get a paycheck.
That's an urban myth. Although at Greta's I tell that I am paid blogger making $18.50/hr and George Soros is my boss. smile


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Originally Posted by logtroll
They appear to be insane.
Butterfly Kisses, Francis, Jeopardy, SocialismSucks2? Freakin' loons. mad


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I don't want to drive off the "middle righter" of the old school, though. There are (or were) people capable of reasoned argument who happen to be conservative in their approach. I just don't see as much evidence of it lately. We've had them here. That's what I miss.


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That would be the Eisenhower conservatives? Moderate Republicans, or RINO's are held in such contempt by todays "conservatives" that mostly they daren't show their faces.


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Conservatives are only 27% of the Republican base. Yet they are the most vocal and the most influential in the GOP party.

So at 27%, isn't that 13.5% of all voters?


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13.5% assumes that Republicans represent 50% the voters, which they do not. I read something lately (no citation - as a gretawire moron would say, "I ain't doing your homework for you!!) that I remember as Rs being maybe 30%. That means righty Rs might make 7.5% of all voters.

Speaking of them dying off, watch this video - I think I might be a Millenial!



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That would be the Eisenhowers of old, the Rockerfellers, those that could see forests and trees; who understood that Democrats weren't out destroy the country, but are patriots who love their country and fellow citizens, and that Social Security and infrastructure spending weren't bad things, but necessary expenditures in a free and effective democracy; those that believed that cooperation was how things were done and that compromises on details were not failures. The ACA was a compromise, a HUGE, compromise by the Democrats, yet the GOP derides it in terms that defy reality, or any sense of proportion. About 10% of the most rabid of the rabid are holding 90% of the country hostage. It has to stop. One way to end it is for there to be a coalition of the middle. No Labels is one such effort, although, frankly, they are too conservative for me. Doug tried to start a similar project. The Majority is far too silent. But, too many are too thin-skinned, too.


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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
...there [needs] to be a coalition of the middle. No Labels...
They're called Independents. The T-Party has co-opted that label too.


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