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There is ample evidence that post ice age flooding occurred.
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There is ample evidence that post ice age flooding occurred. That is absolutely true. What is open to interpretation is whether those floods are the source of the stories. They well could be, although those stories would have to have been transmitted over hundreds of generations.
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There is ample evidence that post ice age flooding occurred. That is absolutely true. What is open to interpretation is whether those floods are the source of the stories. They well could be, although those stories would have to have been transmitted over hundreds of generations. And did all the flood stories occur at the same time?
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"Same time" is a fluid concept. "Long ago" is how most of them go, but there were several different mega-floods at the end of the last Ice Age. For most such neolithic groups it would have seemed as if it were the "whole world" since their "world" would have been so small. We are also just learning about some mega-tsunamis that occurred then or shortly after.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Yeah well. The other day I was watching FOX or the 700 Club. Seriously. I watch them both on occasion. FOX to raise my blood pressure and the 700 Club to get a few chuckles. I love the facial expressions on Pat Robertson and that one half opened eye while he pontificates the truth. Then-- yet another guy comes out in an interview claiming this time to have discovered the remains of Noah’s Ark. The wood remains of the Ark he claims to have found was near the summit of Mt. Ararat in eastern Turkey under stone rubble. So there you go........ Noah’s Ark has finally truly been discovered this time and the absolute unerring word of the Bible proves to be true. What more evidence does anyone need? 
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700 Club... Is that on Comedy Central?
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700 Club... Is that on Comedy Central? It should be. 
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I kind of think some of the cataclysmic events reported in the old testament really happened.
When I was in college I had to read Worlds in Collision by Velikovsky. He used the bible and other ancient texts and artifacts from around the world to prove his theories, one of which was that Venus passed very close to the earth before it established its orbit.
One effect, he says, of Venus's close pass was the sea pulling back (to allow the children of Israel to escape the pharaoh), much as the moon effects the tides. Then he points to a salt lake high in the mountains in China (I think, it was a long time ago), and connects the two events.
He cites the biblical story of how the sun stood still so Joshua could win a battle. And he cites texts or mythology or whatever from the other side of the globe that tells of a night that was way too long.
I guess I think the old testament contains some historical truths. And a pretty scary, incomprehensible god.
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The plausibility of the theory was summarily rejected by the physics community, as the cosmic chain of events proposed by Velikovsky contradicts basic laws of physics. The Old Testament may contain some historical truths but Velikovsky's theory is not one of them.....
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