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Limbaugh touched on the Sec Clinton honesty meme today .... his story is people continue to comment that at any moment X (the FBI is the current entity) will reveal the truth of her lies and file charges .... he continued by saying for 20 some years there has never been any one who can prove she is a liar .... he of course continued with the conspiracy theory that because DoJ etc etc even if the truth was found out
it of course never occurred to this cretin, there may not be anything to the continued conservative memes if no one has produced the proof after 20 years
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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I wonder if Limbaugh will ever face a Joseph McCarty moment? When someone will call him out to the carpet for his endless and misleading self serving rants. And then leave him twisting in the wind.
Likely not. Limbaugh’s ego is made of diamond impregnated titanium. And he will certainly “know” the truth. As it spills out from his huge pie hole.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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...Bernie voted against the money that eventually went to the auto industry. Why? Because Bernie doesn't compromise. Everything is a black or white issue to him. Nuh-uh... The claim, though, leaves listeners with the impression that Sanders’ opposed bailing out the auto industry. But he voted in favor of providing auto companies with $14 billion, which was separate from the Wall Street bailout funds he opposed. That standalone measure failed.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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Carpal Tunnel
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Carpal Tunnel
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Limbaugh is an entertainer. He can't even be sued for libel or defamation.... In tort law a plaintiff cannot bring a libel lawsuit against a defendant with a public reputation as a liar. The legal reasoning is that a known liar cannot damage the reputation of anybody, because nobody will believe the slanderous remarks of a known public liar!
That means that Limbaugh, Hannity and O' Reilly have made so many inaccurate, misleading and untruthful remarks about various people that they cannot be sued for libel because any reasonable person would never believe anything they said. So goes the precedent of law.
Therefore Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly are practically exempt from tort actions and the more they slander people the harder it becomes to bring a lawsuit against them. But people do believe what they say. Fervently. And they spread it far and wide until even Democrats have heard it so many times that they believe it too. Hillary Clinton is not a serial liar. She's a politician campaigning for the highest office in the land. Bernie Sanders is no saint either. Doesn't matter to me which one you like or which one you vote for, just so you vote for one or the other of them.....
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Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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Carpal Tunnel
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See! No compromise. Same with fracking. He'd ban it outright. She'd make it safer. We are not at a point where we can abandon fossil fuels yet.
I don't think Bernie could ban fracking. But Madame Clinton COULD make it safer.
Free college....He can't do it. But she can work to reduce interest rates and strive for more scholarships and grants for those who can't afford college.
Medicare for all. Not gonna happen. But states can be coerced into accepting expanded Medicaid.
I like everything Bernie stands for and believe that it will all ultimately happen. But not in the next eight years.
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Pooh-Bah
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Not following. The subject was Sanders voting for the auto bailout, or not. He did. Clinton lied. Besides, taking a harder line does not exclude compromise, it just moves the potential endpoint of compromise.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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He voted against the bill that bailed out the auto industry.
Because he would not compromise and also bail out Wall St.
He took the hard line and voted for the stand alone bill that did not pass.
The art of the possible....
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Pooh-Bah
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I don't think the auto bailout was part of the TARP bill. GW Bush used TARP money for it on his own. Backfire? Clinton's team is shaken by the close race that's emerging in Michigan, sources told CNN's Jeff Zeleny. Michigan Democrats who are aligned with Clinton's campaign do not believe that Clinton's attack on Sanders' position on the auto bailout worked as they intended. Wasn't Clinton up by double digits in Michigan a few days ago?
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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Moderator Carpal Tunnel
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This is shaping up to be the most consequential race in decades.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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