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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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Personally, I see it as a Trump-Clinton race. Not sure what that will mean. A whole lotta nastiness.
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I think Trump nastiness might make him more popular with his fans, who were going to vote for him anyway. (Assuming they actually can vote. ( EG. felony convictions?) I think it will turn most people who are not Trump fans against him. We shall see.
I am pretty sure Clinton will do her best to portray the moderate candidate, who won't do anything incredibly stupid to destroy the current system. And that's why she will win. Even Conservatives want the current system to stay unchanged. Vote in Trump, Cruz, or Sanders and they have all promised major changes.
In a Trump/Clinton race, I wouldn't be surprised to see a fairly high percentage of Republicans voting for Clinton. Against her current Republican opponents, she IS the Moderate Republican!
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supporting Mr Trump today in hopes he will knock the televangelist out of the arena or how can someone who says they are an originalist support legalized discrimination
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Don't get too carried away with your support for Mr. Trump. In the latest RCP general election poll Trump has risen above Clinton by two points. Perhaps it's time we accept that Donald J. Trump will be our next president. Read it and weep.
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Don't get too carried away with your support for Mr. Trump. In the latest RCP general election poll Trump has risen above Clinton by two points. Perhaps it's time we accept that Donald J. Trump will be our next president. Read it and weep.We're still 6 mos away from the election and it was in May 2012 that the infamous video of Romney saying that 53% of Americans are freeloaders who pay no taxes, who don't assume responsibility for their lives, and who think government should take care of them. The Donald is famous for saying stoopid. It's going to be popcorn time, for me at least. Aunt Hillary will be POTUS. Don't you worry no moar, Greger. 
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LOL
my support is targeted --> defeat Sen Cruz at all costs
with the matchup Trump <--> Clinton I do not believe it will make much difference overall who should be elected .... both will end up being relatively moderate to whichever side of the political spectrum one resides
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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The national polling is strange... we've got:
Clinton over Sanders;
Clinton over Trump;
Kasich over Clinton;
Trump over Kasich;
Sanders over Kasich;
Sanders over Trump.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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Trump over Clinton is the only one that concerns me. Republicans have fallen into line behind Trump. Democrats are divided over Clinton and Sanders. Republicans of all stripes will storm the polls to vote against Clinton. Millenials and progressives will sit this one out. Common sense tells me that Trump cannot win in November, but I never imagined George W. Bush would be elected the second time.
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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The thing about Bernie is, he already HAS won, even if he doesn't win the nomination, even if he doesn't get elected President.
For almost a century candidates have depended upon big corporate donors and wealthy elites for support. The excuse that a candidate HAS to depend on that spoils system IS NOW BROKEN. Bernie Sanders BROKE the system, he has turned all the old excuses into lies. An honest man (or woman) who runs his campaign strictly on the good will and support of the American people, IS THE NEW MODEL.
Say what you wish about Mr. Sanders if you don't like him, it doesn't even matter anymore, because Mr. Sanders has EARNED the RESPECT of a large number of Americans for running an honest campaign, and if he is unable to get elected president he will still return to Congress with his head held high.
He has already promised not to run third party, and he and his wife plan to make his organization PERMANENT...it's called "BNC", Brand New Congress, and he has published a list of "Bernie Democrats" who are running for office. We are electing over 400 members in both houses this November. So with that kind of potential turnover, if we can establish the kind of support Bernie envisions, Bernie will serve as the conscience of the people as a counteracting force against wealthy corporate donors and lobbyists.
They nicknamed Karl Rove "Bush's Brain". Well, Bernie Sanders may very well prove to be "Hillary's Conscience", and that is a very good thing for America.
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The thing about Bernie is, he already HAS won... Right? Who knew he'd last longer than Canuck Ted? 
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