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... No threat of violence was given from the defenders... Are you for real?  Armed Americans using the threat of a gunfight to force federal officers to back down is virtually unparalleled in the modern era, militia experts said. But the BLM, which says it is now pursuing legal and administrative options to resolve the dispute, has won praise for stepping back and avoiding violence. Energized by their success, Bundy's supporters are already talking about where else they can exercise armed defiance... Reuters.xom Dude, you are too much.  As I recall, a court ordered the BLM to stand down. No, the BLM stood down on their own not wanting a WACO or RUBY RIDGE redux. BLM personell do not have the legal standing as police officers do with regards to employing violence. There were federal and state police officers involved as well. Some of the protesters were tased - a few women - for kicking a police dog. Bundy owes money, but is the treatment of him balanced? The Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik sued the Norwegian state for cruel and inhuman treatment, as he has solitary confinement 23 hours a day. He won! The government will appeal. We are not Norway. Hello. You and your ilk want it that way too. Why should people showing up to protest against the treatment of farmers, by the government agencies and officials, be called internal terrorists, etc? Because they are. Let me 'splain something to you Lucy..erm, Swede. ![[Linked Image from i1308.photobucket.com]](http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s616/rogerr6/militia-vs-ranchers_zpscq4yh2cq.jpg)
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Why should people showing up to protest against the treatment of farmers, by the government agencies and officials, be called internal terrorists, etc? Have a gander... then you can stop speculating. 32 page indictment of Cliven Bundy
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Why should people showing up to protest against the treatment of farmers, by the government agencies and officials, be called internal terrorists, etc? I don't know,.... maybe because they were armed and stated they would do whatever was necessary to prevent the law from carrying out the removal of illegal animals on federal land. Just an outside guess. Some might take that as an idle threat, would you? As I recall, those who marched for civil rights, gay liberation and the end of the Viet Nam war were not armed,.... the police were.
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is that a veiled suggestion for insurrection?
How would armed men blocking egress non-violently stop anyone from using the roads. Do you think they would use harsh language and scare the feds???? The threat is implicit when men are brandishing weapons.
Each of your examples are not equivalent to the Bundy terrorists.
Try using the Whiskey Rebellion as a real example of armed men rejecting federal law. In that case Pres Washington etc etc
Get a dictionary and use it. Read some American history.
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It is an insult to all who fought for civil rights, gay rights, women's rights to be compared to a pack of idiots whose only contribution is in the vein of tragi-comedy. Ridiculous 
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You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
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Man oh man, I've heard apologists at work before but this transcends "takfiri" in its revisionist tumescence.
Swede, you're not just pissing on our leg and saying it's raining, you've opened a kidney and called it a barbecue.
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Like I said earlier, if you really believe that nonsense you are in grave danger: The act of threatening somebody with a gun is Assault With a Deadly Weapon, and is against the law in every one of these United States. You don't even have to point it at him, merely the threat and the presence of the gun proves the charge.
If you threaten an armed police officer in this manner, he can kill you and nobody will attempt to prosecute him. Before you end up on a morgue slab, please get some help.
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Same goes for threatening a member of the military, which includes the National Guard AND/OR any legitimate ACTUAL STATE "militia". (as in militia that are operated BY the states)
To do so makes you an enemy combatant because the military cannot classify you as a "soldier" when you do not belong to an army that serves a particular country.
Guess where enemy combatants sometimes go?
HINT: It's outside the country, reserved for terrorists and there's been some call to close it.
Don't be stupid and give anyone reason to keep it open.
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My rights and your rights are not from a nation or a flag, they are inherent in being alive. Flag, shmag, just a tool to control us.
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