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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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We're being told that's socialism, therefore it's bad. 
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Ain't it funny - anything that implies fairness is bad. Well, human stupidity is definitely infinite...
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
Dostoevsky
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I believe there should be a tax applied to any public statement which is blatantly false
these characters should preface any statement with the caveat the following series of words is an opinion
thus we would have this conversation
it is my opinion that Democrats are evil because
1+1 = 213
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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For me, Trump (and to some extent, the Republican party) is an existential threat to the United States, and Hillary Clinton is more about the status quo. In that regard, I am conservative.
Trump is out of control, and represents the worst instincts of the American populace. A truly considered view of his candidacy should produce horror, much like the atomic bomb. He represents crudity, greed, and the oligarchy more than any candidate ever, yet pretends to be a "populist". It is ridiculous.
But, you're right that Trump is the product of the tastelessness of television, and really launched the "reality TV" morass we are saddled with. It became all about money, and quality went out the window. Trump really represents the worst elements of American culture of the last 50 years - the "me" generation, the greed generation, the modern Robber Barons, and the rude generation. If he is truly what we've become, we are doomed. I don't think Trump is all that different from our past Oligarchs and Robber Barons --- he is just being more tasteless in pandering to the prejudices of the Great Unwashed Brainwashed and tearing the mask from his face. In this, he is being a Traitor to His Class, and the Establishment does not forgive him. .
Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived
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I think the fact that the Koch brothers are not giving him any money tells us everything we need to know: The old rich are probably horrified by Trump and would rather see Clinton in there with a Republican Congress to keep her leftward tendencies in check.
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The Oligarchs are only tangentially concerned with us serfs -- they devote most of their energy competing with each other.
A main rival to Koch and his ilk is Trump -- and vice versa.
Caesar, Pompey, and Crassus fought and maneuvered against each other, and either bribed or oppressed the citizen canaille.
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Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived
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Yes, they are rivals but I don't think that is because they are both rich. They are rivals because the Kochs represent old money (and old-time conservatism) and see Donald Trump as a classless upstart loose canon.
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It seems a bit odd to me that despite the support of Trump by the neo-nazis, the Aryan Brotherhood, and the KKK that Sheldon Adelson has decided to support him.
It also lays waste to claims that he not in anyone's pocket.
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If history and Nazi Germany have taught us anything it is that money has no loyalty other than to its own furtherance.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
Dostoevsky
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”Sheldon Adelson has decided to support him”. As has been said politics makes strange bedfellows proverbial saying, mid 19th century, meaning that political alliances in a common cause may bring together those of widely differing views For them Hillary and the Dems must go away--whatever it takes. Simple as that.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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