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But will it really suppress the vote? Most of California primary voting is by mail, so quite a bit of it is already done. She had to hit the top sometime, and it would have been today if not yesterday. CNN started calling New Jersey for Hillary with one percent of the votes counted. AP called Hillary "THE NOMINEE" before California even started voting, but naaaah, we have a free press, don't we? They're totally objective! ![[Linked Image from scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net]](https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13416963_10207761534491277_7744867099982553825_o.jpg)
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With only 12% counted Clinton 62% in California. I am very surpirsed
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With only 12% counted Clinton 62% in California. I am very surpirsed So am I !!!!!! What the Hell California?!? Sheesh!!!!! 
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61% reported in California, and Clinton leads by 16%.
I am not surprised at all. I think there were a lot of folks who thought they would vote for Sanders but couldn't because of the cross-party complication.
Like my dear neighbor who wrote Trump in on her American Independent Party ballot. (No, she's not a racist, she thought she was registered as an independent.) But it won't be counted.
Also, 99% counted in New Jersey, Clinton wins by 27%.
I think Sanders is done. If they throw out all the superdelegates and only go by the votes and caucuses, she would now have well more than half. So the argument that Sanders has made that superdelegates are undemocratic is moot. Without them, she would be the clear winner. Hope that he could convert some superdelegates to his side is the only reason for him to not to quit right now. And after his pounding in California and New Jersey it just ain't gonna happen.
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So the argument that Sanders has made that superdelegates are undemocratic is moot. Without them, she would be the clear winner. No it isn't moot. They are still undemocratic. It has NOTHING to do with this election. The process is corrupted and would be no matter who won. I wonder how much voter suppression was the result of the AP/NBC "announcement" which, by the way, was not even permitted by the DNC.
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But will it really suppress the vote? Most of California primary voting is by mail, so quite a bit of it is already done. She had to hit the top sometime, and it would have been today if not yesterday. CNN started calling New Jersey for Hillary with one percent of the votes counted. AP called Hillary "THE NOMINEE" before California even started voting, but naaaah, we have a free press, don't we? They're totally objective!  Oh Yeah! So objective their objectives are showing...
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I wonder how much voter suppression was the result of the AP/NBC "announcement" which, by the way, was not even permitted by the DNC. Well never know. To me, it's repeat of the November 1980 election when Reagan was called at 5 pm PST. Who voted on the west coast after that point? 
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Bernie seems to have had significant down ballot influence in my neck of the woods. In the county commissioner contest, the three Progressive candidates trounced the Old Guard Democratic candidates in the primaries. I expected one of them to win, maybe on the second, and probably not on the third. But it was a solid set of wins across the board.
If these three win the general election (a high probability), it will overturn a decades long dominance of the Commission by R's and Bluedogs.
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Sounds like a bit of good news
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I wish someone could explain what is so historic about Hillary winning the nom. It was pre-ordained by the DNC to being with. The fact that she is a woman somehow makes her the best candidate? Margaret Thatcher was a woman too... There have been many women presidents in the rest of the world - some good and some bad, just like a lot of men. I thought the presidency was supposed to be about ideas and not gender. I must be mistaken
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
Dostoevsky
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