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I think you guys have been wrong from the start, so I'm just going to put a bookmark here so I can come back next year and say "I told you so." You can do the same if I am wrong.

I believe Hillary Clinton has the interest of the middle class in her heart. I think she genuinely cares about people and what happens to them. I think that she doesn't express it very well, she can be awkward at times, and she has her own financial interests, too. Don't we all. I would not nominate her for sainthood, but if that is your standard, you will never be represented in Congress or the White House.

Bernie Sanders is not a saint, either, by the way. He is quite prone to self-aggrandizement, exaggeration and "shading the truth". That is why he gets more "false" and "mostly false" rulings than Clinton.
Clinton's statements by ruling;
Sanders's statements by ruling

And she's been followed a whole lot longer.

Greger tried that polifact thingy - you can see my comments on that - not reliable.
I never said nor do I believe that Bernie is a saint. In fact I have stated several times that there are many things I don't agree with that he has said and done. Problem is: she has done more and said more things that I don't agree with.
But time will tell.
Her picks for economic issues will be the litmus test for me.

I agree that time will tell. At this point my confidence level is high that she'll run a strong campaign and best Trump and the GOP lie machine. My fervent hope is that she'll have a Senate to back her, especially for judicial nominations. My concern remains that budget bills start in the House and that will still be bollixed up by die-hard TEA spouters. This election cannot overcome decades of gerrymandering.

I'm very confident that she can beat Trump. I hope that she actually runs against him-and the RNC doesn't pull some rabbit out of their hat and quash his candidacy at the 11th hour. I'm still not convinced that they will let him run.

Anything they do at this point will only hurt the party worse. All those angry old white guys have had their say and gotten the candidate they want. The third party plan hasn't gotten any traction at all and hasn't even been able to find a viable candidate or even one who would risk his career tilting at that windmill. If establishment Republicans yank the nomination out from under Trump it will disenfranchise a majority of their voters who seem not to like the Republican Party any more than we do.

Bernie might do better in the polls and might even win by a larger margin than Madame Clinton but I don't think Trump stands much of a chance against either of them. That, I think, is going to be the wall that Bernie runs into at the convention.

I'm not sure that letting him shoot his mouth off for the next 5 months will not do more harm than pulling the rug.
And if that's really their voting base then they should probably shut down the damned party anyway. They can forget about ever winning an election. Hell, eventually they could lose both houses as well.
I can dream, can't I?

I watched Chris Hayes tonight and he had a Republican strategist on who essentially made the same argument: the party deserves Trump and nominating him with the resultant disaster should destroy the existing party and allow the creation ofa credible conservative party to replace it.

By the way, have you been watching the dueling meltdowns and tantrums from both the Hillz-bots and Bernie or Bust Bros?

Fickle minded naive revolutionaries in waiting are now claiming that Dr. Jill "Rainbow Farting Unicorn" Stein has had their best interests at heart all along, and that she now owns the Bernie revolution. So naturally all TWELVE MILLION Bernie voters should just attach themselves to her coat tails so she can ride into the White House on Bernie's dime, wave her magic Green wand and cause the curtain of Green socialism to cure the nation's ills instantly.

And of course she will respect Bernie and have room for him in HER administration.
(Because as we all know, she and her party have always had "nuthin but lo-o-o-ove for Bernie!"

Meanwhile legions of Hillary Pumas can't wait to toss the entire Bernie movement under the bus because Lord knows, she does not need their support, and after all, that SINO (Socialist In Name Only) is really just a closet commie trying to sabotage her.

And, in other news, still more Sanders supporters are being encouraged to vote for The Donald.

How many plan to?
Humble Arianna and her rag think a significant number, because The Hillz is worse than Trump, yes?

By the way, that's a sentiment shared far and wide in Singapore, apparently, where citizens are expressing a desire "to trade PAP for Trump" in a heartbeat, and they're convinced Sanders is a commie.
Thanks, INFOWARS.

INFOWARS is upset because as of 2013 Singapore wants to regulate online news sites, like the one Alex operates.

Jones and other chafe at Singapore online regs

And meanwhile, Jane and Bernie Sanders have announced today that they WILL vote for Hillary if they have to, but the superdelegate system SUCKS.

How many Bernie-istas are going to listen to the advice of their leader? Who knows.