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She's not a republican in their current incarnation - but if she's left leaning I'm a fu$king astronaut .

I can only judge Republicans by their current incarnation. Compared to them she leans way left.

Blast off, Rocketman.

Conservative labels for Democratic presidents:

FDR = Socialist
Truman = Socialist
Kennedy = Socialist
Johnson = Socialist
Carter = Socialist
Clinton = Socialist
Obama = Socialist

And for Eisenhower - COMMUNIST!!!

That's SEVEN Democratic presidents over an eighty-four year period, which is three generations, and one COMMUNIST who was one of their own.

I think I see a pattern here...you??

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Oh by the way, up there, they say "Fart-teen hundred".

I know, compared to Attila the Hun she leans left to get out of the way of the punch.
Unfortunately she is the choice between the shyte and the stink, how wonderful the first world democracy that her ilk has wrought. So nice and comfy for the captains of capital. It all seems so well timed.

Yes there is, it is called stupidity and ignorance on levels never before witnessed. But then, we already knew that.

I guess the Democratic Party has rarely been much different. FDR interned thousands of innocent Japanese. Truman incinerated two cities with NO justification. Kennedy almost ignited the world because of a small island in the Caribbean. Johnson had the blood of countless American and Vietnamese people on his hands. Carter bought into the neoliberal bullshyte and set the stage for a massive transfer of wealth (both internal and external). Clinton finished the job and turned the country into a whorehouse for the rich.
Yes, I know, they all did good things too. But the point is, it is systems and not people that are the problem.

Of course, everybody else in the real world was much worse: The Germans killed all of their "others", we just interned them for the duration of the war. Many more Japanese people would have died if the allies had to invade Japan rather than bluffing them into surrendering in a week with our vast nuclear arsenal of two bombs. Johnson inherited a mess, and he left a mess in Vietnam but he did a hell of a lot domestically with the Civil Rights Act. And Clinton's main talent was to find common ground so both sides of the aisle could vote for legislation, because getting half way to a goal is better than not making any progress.

And I think we are going to see that with Madame Clinton too: A President who will break the deadlock between the partisans in Congress and find common ground Congress can act on (and the voters will support). Remember, probably 90% of the stuff Congress should do does not have a particularly Democratic or Republican aspect. We used to pass most legislation with bipartisan support, and we can again.

I'm sorry, but the American public simply is not as Liberal as you wish. Even if they won't vote for free college, they could be lead to support inexpensive state colleges and universities for the talented, by a skillful President.

Dream on. Clinton will do nothing more than her corporate masters will allow her to do.

Tell that to the thousands in the internment camps, many of whom died there.
Tell that to generations of children deformed from radiation poisoning.
Tell that to the tens of thousands tortured in Batista's prisons.
Tell that to hundreds of thousands whose families were destroyed by the war in Vietnam.
Tell that to the 45 million people who live below the poverty line.
Tell that to millions of non white people who live in fear of their own country every single day.
You live in a fantasy world, my friend. It's time to wake up.

We'll see. I was pretty happy with Bill's administration while it was happening. I made my first million dollars in the stock market during that 8 years. I would not mind 8 more years of prosperity.