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It all depends on what you're calling center these days - she is right of Obama who is pretty much center. Sorry man, she ain't never been left.
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It all depends on what you're calling center these days Halfway between extreme right and extreme left lies the center. And it's kind of funny, but I believe she is left of Obama and willing to push harder in that direction than he has been.
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It may sound a little racist, but I think Obama's liberality has always been hobbled by his race. He couldn't act freely because he always had to be sensitive to the average voter's racist tendencies. That's why he gave in so easily to "whatever Congress comes up with" as the ACA. That's why he has been so passive about the Republicans doing everything in their power to defeat anything he approves, even if their actions border on treason.
As I recall, he wanted a public option and the best the Congress of the time could pass was the totally Big Health Insurance and Big Pharma thing we have now. I don't think Hillary is going to "tread lightly" because she is a woman. In fact, I think she is going to do a bit of extra stomping when it comes to Congress. Anybody who attacks her personally is going be singled out to feel some pain, like maybe being defeated in the next election, indicted for past crimes, etc.
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The Everly Brothers: Dream, dream, dream
Dream, dream, dream, dream
Dream, dream, dream, dream
Dream
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"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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This is what I call a REAL BARE PROTEST! Go get 'em ladies!! As the sun rises Sunday morning over the Quicken Loans Arena in downtown Cleveland, 100 women stand completely nude, holding large, round mirrors facing the arena. They're on an empty lot in between a fire station and a shipping warehouse, right on the Cuyahoga River. It's the day before the Republican National Convention kicks off, but on this side of the river, it's nearly silent, except for the snaps and pops of a camera.
Artist Spencer Tunick stands on a ladder holding the camera focused on the women, wiping sweat off his brow. He shouts, "We love you all! This is beautiful," as he takes photos for his art installation, "Everything She Says Means Everything."
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I remember a short fiction piece in which a South American football team gave out large mirrored programs to all their fans in attendance at the game. When the eternally corrupt referee made a bad call, they all focused the reflection of the sun on the official and he went up in a puff of smoke.
Wouldn't it be funny if these 100 women with mirrors did the same thing! Sunlight is 1 kilowatt per square meter, if the sun is shining. Say 90 kilowatts concentrated in 1 square meter of Trump's backside?
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New York Times Upshot Poll gives Hillary a 76% chance of victory as opposed to Drumpf who has a whopping 24% chance of victory in November. And this has not yet felt the effect of the misbegotten Melania speech last night. New York Times
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Chamber of Commerce May Prefer Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump (to the tune of: "Ain't that a kick in the head") THE PRESIDENT OF the U.S. Chamber of Commerce on Wednesday signaled that the big-business community is still undecided between newly minted Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton. Chamber President Tom Donohue’s statements to Fox Business News on Wednesday morning represented an astonishing break from the organization’s nearly invariable support for Republican candidates.
“Trump talks about some important things in energy and taxes and financial areas,” Donohue said. “Hillary perhaps has more experience and businessmen like that — businessmen and women like that — but I don’t think that’ll be decided until you hear the speeches here and next week and you see the first debate, and I think people will start to move more clearly to where they’re going to vote.”
Chief among Donohue’s complaints about Trump was his opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
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Their positions are not so very different on so many issues. (It's that 90% of things are non-partisan point.)
Trump's "positions" don't exist, since he says contradictory things days apart. The most important thing for business is to have predictability so they don't make planning mistakes. Hillary is predictable, and business did great under the last Clinton.
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