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Scoutgal #290568 07/29/16 11:51 PM
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signals bouncing between clouds of political rhetoric

its all good


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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
And just to cloud the picture... Clinton leads Trump by 6 points after Democratic confab: Reuters/Ipsos poll. Is this bounce or noise?
It is a noisey bounce wink
The "other" category is too large = 25%
Noise is definitely present - but the timing is definitely from the convention.


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Yes, I agree, I agree.

I was just putting it out there. I'm an addict, what can I say?


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Another shoe drops: Federal judge strikes down Wisconsin election laws. (This is new. Previously a different federal judge modified the "voter ID" provision.)


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Here's an interesting article from MarketWatch about all the smears Hillary has suffered through the decades:

All the terrible things Hillary has done - In one big list

By far the most interesting thing is that MarketWatch ran it! Not exactly a Liberal media outlet.

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In the Hillary Clinton Era, Democrats Welcome Lobbying Money Back Into the Convention

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BY QUIETLY DROPPING a ban on direct donations from registered federal lobbyists and political action committees, the Democratic National Committee in February reopened the floodgates for corruption that Barack Obama had put in place in 2008.

Secret donors with major public-policy agendas were welcomed back in from the cold and showered with access and appreciation at the Democratic convention in Philadelphia.

Major donors were offered “Family and Friends” packages, including suites at the Ritz-Carlton, backstage passes, and even seats in the Clinton family box. Corporate lobbyists like Heather Podesta celebrated the change, telling Time: “My money is now good.”

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As a lobbyist, Podesta’s clients include the energy, finance, healthcare, retail, real estate, education, and transportation sectors.


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
Here's an interesting article from MarketWatch about all the smears Hillary has suffered through the decades:

All the terrible things Hillary has done - In one big list

Here is a list for Trump:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/


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To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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While Hillary Clinton's baggage is mostly suspicion and shadowy innuendo; Trump’s are fully documented in court cases. The information that Turmp's baggage lacks is financial - The Donald forces winners of lawsuits against him to sign non-disclosure statements.

Plus Donald Trump won't release his tax records. Some allege that the reason is that his taxes show that he's tied to the Russian Oligarchy.


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While Hillary Clinton's baggage is mostly suspicion and shadowy innuendo; Trump’s are fully documented in court cases. The only information that Turmp's baggage lacks is financial - The Donald forces winners of lawsuits against him to sign non-disclosure statements.

Trump's dirt trumps Hillary's? grin


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
[Trump's dirt trumps Hillary's? grin
Well played sir. smile


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