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Joined: Feb 2006
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Pooh-Bah
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Trump's dirt trumps Hillary's? grin Actually Hillary's dirt is just Republican masturbatory fantasies. Trump's dirt is countless people ruined financially, countless women sexually harassed (and worse), real lawsuits, real bankruptcies, real frauds, etc. It's amazing just how much you can get away with when you have great lawyers and 100 million dollars.
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Trump's dirt trumps Hillary's? grin Actually Hillary's dirt is just Republican masturbatory fantasies Not only. She's made her share of cock ups but nothing that compares to Trump.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky
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I don't think you can count her ideological differences from yours as actual mistakes. That's well within the bounds of the differences we tolerate in friends and family. I think her number of actual mistakes falls well within normal human failings. Nobody is perfect.
I know I've made mistakes.
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Not what I meant. She's been less than straight several times. But again, not comparing to the orangutan.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky
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Orang Utan. I had a friend long ago who joined the Peace Corps to avoid serving in Vietnam. He served in Malaysia where the orangutan lives and in his time there learned some of the language in order to get along since there weren't a lot of English speakers around at the time and upon his return he told me that Orang is Malaysian for "wild" and Utan simply means "man". Hence, the Orangutan is a "wild man". Just an interesting little factoid which may or may not be true.
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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She's been less than straight several times. Every politician, including Bernie, has been known to play a little free and loose with the truth at times. Trump, on the other hand, is a flat out liar most of the time.
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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My point exactly. As I have repeatedly affirmed: it is a difference in kind not of degree.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky
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Trump, on the other hand, is a flat out liar most of the time. When he tells the truth it is only a function of it serving his interest at the time... it is never out of integrity.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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I don't think that Trump has gotten through a single interview without spouting some whopper of a lie. No one in the history of fact checking has gotten more "pants-on-fire" or "4-pinochios" ratings. Not. Even. Close.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Huh... KOCH: Well, I— that— her— we would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. Let me put it that way. But on some of the Republican candidates we would— before we could support them, we’d have to believe their actions will be quite different than the rhetoric we’ve heard so far Linky Dinky Mebbe Greger should worry about us Bernie Bros support, again. 
Contrarian, extraordinaire
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