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What?

You're getting your political ideologies mixed up:

Not sure why failed liberal?
The guy sounds lost in a time that he thinks existed but never really did. It's not even extreme, it's delusional.
Sure he'll make a good impression on the Birkenstock crowd
But I agree with him on the Ali thing: The only person less fitting to speak at Ali's funeral might have been Trump. Clinton is very far from someone who understood and agreed with Ali's activism.
Also, Beoyonce giving a nod to the Panthers smacks of corporate BS, I wouldn't argue with that.
The rest of his rants sound

So the dude's totally bonkers. Fits right in with the Green Party.

Meanwhile, Nate Silver's Nowcast has Hillary at 92.5% if the election were held today. That's a number I'm comfortable with.

This requires more than just a general rehash about Clinton's political overtures but rather, it asks that you supply something that spotlights her as being against Ali's activism specifically.
Now, if you're focusing exclusively on his early activities with Elijah Muhammed I would be forced to remind you that he soundly rejected NOI shortly after the death of Malcolm X, who died BECAUSE HE rejected NOI as well.
In fact, Ali said that not having reconciled with Malcolm X after his epiphany was one of his greatest regrets.
Ali and X had very complicated political evolutions which defy the broad brush.


I am forced to assume you are referencing The New Black Panther Party. If not, and you are instead referencing the original group, then it means you don't know a lot about the original Black Panthers or their activism, none of which would be considered corporate at all. Nor would appropriating their symbolism be considered corporate.

No, I am not getting my ideologies mixed up, the young naive campus lefties are. Rick, you're one of the few who recognize the political failure that occurs when one releases their inner fascist so you of all people should recognize the cognitive dissonance of the radical campus lefties. The reason they ARE failed liberals is that their would be affinity for liberal belief systems run up against their desire to impose fascism upon their opponents and the inner fascist wins, and their beliefs in liberal values collapses.

That is why almost ALL the current crop of Reagan era neocons all started out as radical campus lefties. They failed as liberals and rush to the arms of conservatism, could not jive with the personal freedoms espoused by them and tried to invent this illegitimate baby called "neo-conservatism" which is just campus lefty radicalism's nuts and bolts driving a right wing ideology.

HORSESHOE THEORY



You might say that the majority of screaming radical campus lefties very quickly "jump the ends of the horseshoe" and their minds catch up after their emotional maturity sets in, but that is almost always accompanied by a sort of amnesia which allows them to pretend that ALL liberalism is as they once saw it, which justifies their wild accusations which they level at liberals, or "libtards" as they like to say.

and ipsos dipsos says they are within 3 points .... the MoE

i like Mr Trumps idea .... a rigged election

Did you actually read the post?

1) I was referring to BILL CLINTON (you know the guy who read the eulogy) Nothing to do with NOI - ALI'S CIVIL RIGHTS AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE ADVOCACY that does not jive with Bill Clinton's Neo liberal policy. Missed my point entirely.

2) Again - my point was BEYONCE's co-opting of the ORIGINAL Panthers at the super-bowl was corporate, not the Panthers themselves, of which I was a member! Yes, appropriating the symbols of the movement without understanding it smacks of corporatism.

Please read with care.

So, why a failed liberal? Don't get it.

I think they misspelled the theory - it was originally HORSESHYTE THEORY
A failed attempt at classifying political systems in order to justify the status quo.



Or maybe it was this horseshoe they were thinking of?

Just wanted to drop in and put into the mix that labels always divide, that is their purpose, and we are all humans in essence and reality.

Continue ......

I read it carefully, and if you read Baraka's screeds, then you know that he has turned it into a help wanted poster for his ridiculous campaign, so I sneer at his attempt to turn Bubba into an imperialist enemy of blackdom just because he doesn't jive with Far Left tropes.
I know you love Jill Stein and I know you're considerably farther left than I am but please consider that Stein is already pretty far left as it is and instead of choosing a moderating influence, she went farther out on the fringe.

If he doesn't seem fringe to you, then I guess we have to agree to disagree on that one.

As for Beyonce, you can call it corporate appropriation of Panther symbols if you want or you can call it Beyonce paying homage, whatever suits your fancy or your agenda.

I wager most people, most who weren't far right anyway, took it as net positive. Leave it to you to turn it into a negative.

Some people are offended BY ABSOLUTELY EVERY. THING.