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I am genuinely concerned that Trump has loosed the dogs the GOP has been nurturing for decades. Trump will lose, and lose badly. The best majority of Americans understand why, and WANT him to lose. Nonetheless, Trump supporters are not tethered to reality like the rest of us. Many, like the ranter quoted earlier, are full-on nuthouse conspirators. Some want to foment discord. And a small number, we don't know how many, yet, will want to take up arms in support of their detached-from-reality schemes. They scare me more than ISIS.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Trump has loosed the dogs the GOP has been nurturing for decades. And even the GOP plans to chain those dogs in the backyard once this election is over. A mean dog can be helpful at times but, once loose, can cause immeasurable damage to the neighborhood. This election has served to show Republicans just how dangerous these dogs actually are.
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They bred them. Lord Bolton, is that you?
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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What I find most disconcerting about the stats is even if you present factual evidence to the contrary, these people would still believe rampant (no matter how one defines it) voter fraud exists and political races have been stolen by liberals/Dems.
The right wing radio talk show hosts have drilled this lie into their audiences. This is now a fundamental truth, and a fundamental tenet in their idiot-ology.
It would be impossible to have an intelligent conversation with these folks.
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Intelligent conversation implies intelligence on both sides of the table. When one side believes in the man in the moon, it is nigh impossible.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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Trump is setting up the scenario that when he loses, it will be a "rigged" campaign that caused his loss - not his actual buffoonery and asinine proposals. Creating the "rigged election" story line also then creates doubts about the legitimacy of Hillary Clinton's presidency. It will be akin to 'the birth certificate' for four years. (She's not really the President. She can't do that.)
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Trump is setting up the scenario that when he loses, it will be a "rigged" campaign that caused his loss - not his actual buffoonery and asinine proposals. Creating the "rigged election" story line also then creates doubts about the legitimacy of Hillary Clinton's presidency. It will be akin to 'the birth certificate' for four years. (She's not really the President. She can't do that.) As a failed party with a failed ideology that's all they have left.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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Mandatory retirement for politicians: When they start sounding like this... More than six years later, Giuliani is still confused.
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Monday said terrorists failed to successfully strike the United States in the eight years before President Obama and former secretary of State Hillary Clinton took office.
“Under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn’t have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States,” Giuliani said Monday ahead of a speech by Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on foreign policy. “They all started when Clinton and Obama got into office.” That he is an a$$hat we already knew. But seriously????
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"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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Probably crunch week for the Trump campaign. If He cant right the ship somewhat this week the GOP will likely abandon him.
Another Monday, another reset.
Trump can usually hold it together for a few days, he usually goes off by Thursday. Will be interesting to see if hes using the nice phone or the naughty one for his tweets. I understand he is now also being babysat by Prebius/Gulliani to keep his busy fingers away from the phone.
So we taking bets on the next breakdown?
"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
(Philip K.Dick)
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