11,700 would not provide even the cardboard box in Los Angeles.

But if we get back to the issue of competition vs cooperation it is irrelevant. We should be looking for areas in which the public can pay, such as free medical care and higher taxes on upper bracket earners. We could also tax all those companies that exported income to other nations.

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