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Your opinions are your own. You can think whatever nonsense you want. Let me think my own nonsense. Your pipe dream of some happy campfire singalong between labor and capital is a non starter. You cannot give one example of where it works. Why is private ownership better? What makes it legal, other than the laws of a system that created it and benefit from it? Your logic is non existent. Your basic premise is flawed. And when the basic premise is flawed the whole theory is questionable, to say the least. Your taking a position based on what you think. If you were alive during slavery you'd have found similar justification for it. (Note that I don't mean you personally). You have avoided my question on the mode of production. Just sayin Even when ownership is shared between a capitalist state and a private company there is no socialist element. Both represent the same underlying system. And it is capital that usurps value from labor - since you like the word so much Your ideas do not jive with reality dear friend.