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More like two turds in a punch bowl. Each shouting that the other stinks and is spoiling the punch.
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More like two turds in a punch bowl. Each shouting that the other stinks and is spoiling the punch. 
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky
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It's coming down to temperament for me for these two running for POTUS.
Donald Trump trashes our military every other day. The days he doesn't, he's praising them. Same with our law enforcement: One day he likes them, the next day he doesn't. Also, Trump's favorable words for Putin simply because Putin "says nice things" about Trump is beyond the pale.
Yes, Hillary is no prize. She lies (...as does Donald Trump - he even more so, in my opinion). She's secretive. She's a war hawk. But one of them is going to be President and with Hillary I know the Devil that I'm getting. With Trump, I don't know which Trump will show up to work on any given day given that he's been on both sides of every issue.
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Well Clinton was Secretary of State, Americas top diplomat. A diplomat who always told the truth would be a disaster! A diplomat certainly has to keep secrets. Her whole email scandal is maybe she didn't keep secrets. Likewise, a diplomat who didn't back up situations with a consideration of using force would be a pushover. Other countries and NGOs would just walk all over us.
So you have more or less described her qualifications for being President.
We DID have a President who was exceptionally honest about everything, and really disliked secrets. His name was Jimmy Carter.
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Justice William O. Douglas wrote, "Brandeis was a militant crusader for social justice whoever his opponent might be. He was dangerous not only because of his brilliance, his arithmetic, his courage. He was dangerous because he was incorruptible. . . [and] the fears of the Establishment were greater because Brandeis was the first Jew to be named to the Court." On June 1, 1916 he was confirmed by the Senate by a vote of 47 to 22, to become one of the most famous and influential figures ever to serve on the high court. His opinions were, according to legal scholars, some of the "greatest defenses" of freedom of speech and the right to privacy ever written by a member of the Supreme Court.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky
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In general, I have great admiration for a race that requires every man to be able to read and intelligently discuss their founding documents.
I am not too happy with their treatment of Palestinians, but 4000 years of honoring education and literacy means something.
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... I am not too happy with their treatment of Palestinians, ... There are plenty, and I do mean plenty of Jews here and in Israel who would love to see Netanyahu run out on a rail. Another right wing fascist who uses fear to remain in power. You'd think he would be disgusted at using the same tactic that Hitler used.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky
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Greger said: More like two turds in a punch bowl. Each shouting that the other stinks and is spoiling the punch. Eau de pew pew.
Just a Missouri school teacher ... stubborn as a mule and addicted to logic.
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"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky
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' That's very good, Ezekiel. ----  .
Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived
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