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I don't think she's a dissenting voice. She will follow the neo liberal playbook. To some extent yes. But like the many things DJT has said which have returned to bite him on the ass, Madame Clinton has got a long list of campaign promises that will not be forgotten. Warren and Sanders will certainly not forget them and (among others) will keep her toes to the fire. A flipped Senate and weakened control of the House would go a long way towards making some of her domestic goals possible. I noticed several times during the debate when Clinton wanted to use the term "Make America Great Again" and stumbled slightly finding words to replace them.
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I think you are right, Greger --- provided well-organized pressure groups keep their fires close to Clinton's feet.
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Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
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"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
(Philip K.Dick)
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The fire will have to be on full blast . I'm a seeing is believing type of guy in this particular . Enough lip service. Let's see some action.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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I guess Trump thinks the rich would all invest in vast ego-projects like him, if they just had more money. Is this the future of the American economy: Relatively few moguls building huge pyramids to house their remains and objects of wealth after they are gone? Is this his idea of infrastructure projects? The Carnegies and other wealthy families who erected institutions dedicated to the better well being of all mankind are long gone. Look for a Carnegie and you'll get Martin Shkreli.
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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I think you are right, Greger --- provided well-organized pressure groups keep their fires close to Clinton's feet.
. Sanders as Senate Budget chair sounds like fire to me.
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I'm a seeing is believing type of guy in this particular. Enough lip service. Let's see some action. There's no arguing against that. The proof, as they say, will be in the pudding. I got my hopes up perhaps a little too high when Obama took the helm. But I never really foresaw the degree of obstructionism that would occur. Given the actual power of any president in this day and age to get anything done, I'll be generally pleased to see a Supreme court without a conservative majority, something done about college debt and tuition, and at least a small increase on taxes for the wealthy and other new forms of revenue.
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Enough lip service. Let's see some action. We have to be patient. Nothing happens until 1/20/17, and even then it takes a long time to get legislation through Congress. Obama has already done everything possible through administrative rules and even then Congress and the Supreme Court have rejected some things. I think Hillary might have her hands full just dealing with Trump extremists for a while, at least until the worst of them act up and get arrested or killed.
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I think you are right, Greger --- provided well-organized pressure groups keep their fires close to Clinton's feet.
. Sanders as Senate Budget chair sounds like fire to me. Do you think that is possible? Sounds too good to be true, to me. .
Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived
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Sanders as Senate Budget chair I think that came from some Republican who threatened a Clinton win would mean Bernie as Budget Chair. Seems pretty unlikely but Bernie has gained a lot of political capital in the last year so for a while he's going to have considerably more power than in the past.
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