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Now the courts have to decide where the child should live. This should have been determined by both the mother and father when the mother decided she was unable to raise her daughter. (showing his decision was based on the lack of parental guidance and care, not on any political consideration you may wish to assign) I think Ron spoke pretty well for himself. Congratulations on your self-imposed skill at reading Ron's mind. Again, you have narrowed the Hack Gap admirably.
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Not to worry, I was not in the least offended. Amused, but not offended. Would you mind sharing with all us reg'lar Ranters how you did conclude that the most ardent local supporter of Dennis Kucinich for President came to be a conservative in your mind? <Sigh!> I didn't. Just because one takes a position that was identical to that of Conservatives, does not make one Conservative. The same conclusion was reached via different routs. In the case of the Kuchinich supporter, the conclusion was reached after deliberating the effect on the child, and what would be best for her. In the case of the Conservative, the conclusion was reached after calculating the electoral vote count in the 2008 presidential elections and the effect on the outcome, then deciding what position would best serve to retain the White House in Republican hands. I never, ever said that anyone who concluded that the girl should stay in the US was a Conservative. I did say that anyone who was a Conservative would say she should stay in the US, in order to maximize the Cuban-American vote in Florida for the Republican presidnetial candidate. Understand the difference?
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A father gives custody of his daughter to his wife. The wife and daughter move to a different country. The mother becomes unable to raise her daughter and has her daughter put in a foster home. The child is placed with foster parents. After all this has happened the father decides he wants his daughter back. Now the courts have to decide where the child should live. This should have been determined by both the mother and father when the mother decided she was unable to raise her daughter.
(siding against the father. We can safely predict where SH will explicitly come down the next time SH posts) If it could be safely predicted which side I will take Philly Steve why didn't you make that predicition?
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(showing his decision was based on the lack of parental guidance and care, not on any political consideration you may wish to assign) Thank you stereoman! To keep my comments as neutral as possible I purposely did not mention any countries.
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Please cease going after each other, characterizing each other and get back to the topic.
Thanks.
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Philadelphia Steve, if I am hearing you correctly, you are saying that Conservatives (Republicans) are capitalizing on the poor family's problems to further inflame Cuban exiles' hatred of all things Castro, without the slightest shame at the hypocrisy of stealing a child away from her parents and giving her to a government selected family "for her own good."
I get your point, PS. A lot of people get it.
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Please explain how keeping her with a Cuban-American family in Florida is different from NOT allowing her to return to her father in Cuba. Obviously, if she's with her father, it would be in Cuba; however, wanting to keep her with the adoptive family is not equivalent to saying she must not return to Cuba. Based on the information extant, I'd be in favor of letting her remain with the adoptive family were her father in Canada, the UK, Japan, or even in another part of the US. My preference in keeping her with the adoptive parents is predicated on the father's past behavior, not his domicile. You are, of course, perfectly free to post the proof that I have ever said she must not be allowed to return to her father because he lives in Cuba. ...
No, you wouldn't. You would shift to the next "option", whatever it was, that also had the effect of not allowing her to return to her father in Cuba. In fact you would run thorugh every option in the world, including Newt Gingrich's "Orphanages" before you, or any Conservative, would endorse an option, returning her to her father in Cuba, that would outrage the Cuban-American vote prior to the 2008 presidential elections. So, you read minds as well? Perhaps you ought not further embarrass yourself by misunderstanding and misrepresenting the motivations of other posters - especially since you can offer no proof and have clearly attempted to present one of this forum's clearly-defined left/liberals as a "Conservative."
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have clearly attempted to present one of this forum's clearly-defined left/liberals as a "Conservative." Can you document where I made that accusation?
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have clearly attempted to present one of this forum's clearly-defined left/liberals as a "Conservative." Can you document where I made that accusation? In your rather [deleted] post #28551. Replied to by an [deleted] Steve in #28562; followed by further [deleted] on your part; and again [deleted] by [deleted]Steve in #28578; and after [deleted] on your part, by an [deleted]Steve in #28728. And thank you for withdrawing your claim to being able to read my mind and predict my future responses to your shell-game.
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May I take this opportunity to ask some of you to re-read the guidelines and edit your post accordingly.
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