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Presidential campaigns tend to raise issues that have festered for some time, but spin them in ways that are often unimaginable. This campaign has been no different (in that regard). But, the election will be over in 10 days. My question is, what do Ranters think the issues after the election will be?

I'll start: I think elections, voting, and the threat to the process will be a major issue - that will include redistricting (there will be new headlines about the Democrats once again winning the popular vote, but it not being reflected in the House), voting security, and access (i.e., anti-suppression measures, early voting, and voter I.D.).

I am fairly certain that there will be a significant push over college costs, as well (which implies that Clinton will win). Court nominations will also be a major issue - especially if the Democrats to not retake control of the Senate.

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the only thought i have is you have counted the proverbial chickens and i don't see any eggs



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The point is prognostication. What will the issues BE in the next year or so.


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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Exacerbated, exaggerated, hyper-inflated sabre-rattling about the Russian menace, the enemy of the empire redux.
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How much time and taxpayer money Hillary Clinton wastes playing golf?


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Originally Posted by logtroll
How much time and taxpayer money Hillary Clinton wastes playing golf?

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That would have been my second guess...


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In seriousness, I expect the issues in the coming years to be most basically revolving around more stonewalling of good government. Many predicted that the weaknesses Obamacare would lead to a single-payer system - I don't think it will get there in the next Presidential term, but there will be a lot of what passes for debate about it, which might raise the tide.

Assuming Clinton wins and the Senate majority goes "D", we will see some pyrotechnics about SCOTUS appointments, but the D's will either get tough (stop snickering) and bulldoze the Senate minority, or enough R senators will see the approaching cliff edge and do their duty.



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I agree, log. I think there will also be a desperate effort to reach a compromise on immigration - at least among Republicans serious about saving their party.


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I think if the Senate goes Democratic the nuclear option is on. The Republican talk about never seating a Clinton nominee on the Supreme Court has to be dealt with, and the way forward is to severely curtail the power of the filibuster. Leaving the Judicial branch broken would be an endless hassle for Clinton's administration. Not just the SC but also there is a huge backlog of federal judge appointments.

With a Liberal Court, we will probably see some decisions to decrease the amount of gerrymandering, but that will take a while. Maybe the House districts will be less Republican-friendly by 2024.

ACA needs some fixes. Private insurers can all decide to abandon a market, so we will need something like Medicare for those folks. There just isn't anyway around it, unless government supplies it. Not necessarily a bad option: These very same private insurance companies already handle all the Medicare claims with 5% overhead instead of the 20% overhead allowed by ACA. It could be 15% cheaper! And these companies all do want the Medicare business and manage to make money on it, so if the want to keep on doing that they would have to also handle the ACA claims.

Immigration needs some fixes. Some people say "They need to follow the procedure and wait their turn." but the special relative program uses up all the "turns" from Mexico every year. So if you have no relatives in the US, you wait forever. That is why people have to sneak in and have an anchor baby: It's the only way to get here.

Restoring the fairness doctrine on broadcasts might go a long way toward fixing the right-wing anti-government hysteria. A little truth along with each Fox and Rush program?

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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
I think if the Senate goes Democratic the nuclear option is on. The Republican talk about never seating a Clinton nominee on the Supreme Court has to be dealt with, and the way forward is to severely curtail the power of the filibuster. Leaving the Judicial branch broken would be an endless hassle for Clinton's administration. Not just the SC but also there is a huge backlog of federal judge appointments.

Deliberately breaking one main branch of government (Judicial) while deliberately obstructing another (Legislative)?
I see NOTHING to disabuse Republicans of continuing the effort, especially since it is doubtful that Chuck Schumer, the 2016 love child of Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman, will actually make good on the perennial promise to kill the phone in filibuster, secret holds and all the other nonsense being used to great effect.
The Republicans will once again promise to play nice, Chuck will buy it and once again the Republicans will move in for the kill.

Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
With a Liberal Court, we will probably see some decisions to decrease the amount of gerrymandering, but that will take a while. Maybe the House districts will be less Republican-friendly by 2024.

ACA needs some fixes. Private insurers can all decide to abandon a market, so we will need something like Medicare for those folks. There just isn't anyway around it, unless government supplies it. Not necessarily a bad option: These very same private insurance companies already handle all the Medicare claims with 5% overhead instead of the 20% overhead allowed by ACA. It could be 15% cheaper! And these companies all do want the Medicare business and manage to make money on it, so if the want to keep on doing that they would have to also handle the ACA claims.

I see five very wealthy health insurance CEO's standing with their right hands raised in a hearing, demanding a bailout.

Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
Immigration needs some fixes. Some people say "They need to follow the procedure and wait their turn." but the special relative program uses up all the "turns" from Mexico every year. So if you have no relatives in the US, you wait forever. That is why people have to sneak in and have an anchor baby: It's the only way to get here.


I see a spate of extrajudicial immigrant and non-immigrant killings in remote areas, carried out by newly emboldened militia.
Doesn't matter what the legal status of these victims are, if they LOOK like they might be immigrants, good enough as far as these "patriots" are concerned. Look for more jury nullification and tampering in these cases. The ammosexual boys will walk free once again.

Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
Restoring the fairness doctrine on broadcasts might go a long way toward fixing the right-wing anti-government hysteria. A little truth along with each Fox and Rush program?

Surely you must be joking. Hundreds of millions have been invested in creating a false make believe bubble representing a false reality backed by bought and paid for false rhetoric, and you think the Fairness Doctrine might be restored?

None of the above will happen without a war starting...a civil war.
And the Republicans intend to move to impeach Hillary on January 21, 2017.


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