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Lots and lots of people are substantially delusional. Most everyone is ... speak for yourself .... I get a reality checkup every couple of days and have the certificates to prove it
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Lots and lots of people are substantially delusional. Most everyone is ... speak for yourself .... I get a reality checkup every couple of days and have the certificates to prove it Do you use Trump's quack doc?
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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hey .... i am the one with the cert
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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The word for this election is "irresponsible". Trump's rhetoric has been irresponsible. Director Comey was irresponsible. Bret Baier was irresponsible (but he works for FOX, so that's pretty much a given). The only hope now is that the voters will be responsible.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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I'm struggling today to keep from going into a deep funk. How the hell can a completely unqualified clown be the candidate of a major party? How can this election even be close? I despair for our country Yeah the Hysteria of the last few days has been unmatched in any previous election, even the madder ones like 2004 and 2008. I'm surprisingly optimistic. Excessive noise is not necessarily substance. I still have some faith in enough US citizens to make the better choice, despite the horrific nature of this election. If, and it's a big if, the recent Florida poll showing that 28 percent of GOP early voters picked Clinton is accurate Trump is toast. Some major polls incoming over the weekend and there are already signs that Trumps recent Mo is waning.
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"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
(Philip K.Dick)
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What the Trump campaign has clearly demonstrated is that an uneducated, alienated population (Repubs not only to blame for this, the Dems have their share in the neoliberal economic policies that have assailed the country for decades) can be easily manipulated and "radicalized" to burn down the barn when things don't go their way. It has further proven that there is a spiritual blackout in this country, in the words of Colonel West: THE MOST FRIGHTENING feature of the civic melancholia in present-day America is the relative collapse of integrity, honesty, and decency — an undeniable spiritual blackout of grand proportions. The sad spectacle of the presidential election is no surprise. Rather, the neofascist catastrophe called Donald Trump and the neoliberal disaster named Hillary Clinton are predictable symbols of our spiritual blackout. Trump dislodged an inert conservative establishment by unleashing an ugly contempt for liberal elites and vulnerable citizens of color — and the mainstream media followed every performance (even his tweets!) for financial gain. Clinton laid bare a dishonest liberal establishment that was unfair to Bernie Sanders and obsessed with winning at any cost — and the mainstream media selectively weighed in for pecuniary ends. It has been perpetrated by the ruling classes of both parties. If ever there were a case to be made for a third/fourth/fifth party that would be now. If ever there were a case to made for strengthening the education system and NOT allowing any fool with a bullhorn to poison the minds of the people, that would be now. If ever there were a case to begin a process of - for the first time in this country's history - economic and social justice, that time would DEFINITELY BE NOW. Guns, violence and rhetoric (on any side of the spectrum) do not address the problem and certainly do not help to solve it. There are many reasons for this death-spiral into which the U.S. has currently unraveled, and understanding those reasons is surely important. But, doing something to change their raison d'etre is infinitely more important. And I'm not convinced that a Clinton victory will achieve that. It may only retard the descent. It is the responsibility of every one who recognizes the danger to put pressure on the government to begin to engender that change. In other words, complacency (of the type that occurred after Obama was elected) is no longer an option. Either we do it now, or we stand to face a MUCH WORSE scenario four years hence.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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Looks like someone lied about being an illegal immigrant: Melania worked in the U.S. before having a work visa
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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Giuliani denies getting leaked info from FBI as Dems call for investigation Hmmm in the parlance of these times i believe the appropriate phrase is "Lock him up"
"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
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I mean really .... how did this character ever convict anyone .... he can not follow the facts to their logical conclusion
the first statement about knowing something was about to be released and it was big probably does not pertain to a political ad, so he almost had to be talking about something else .... and now the reader may speculate as to what ... in hindsight it may appear he was talking about the "letter" but it could have just as easily been Assange notifying the mayor of some new smoking gun wiki's
the problem is his statement on radio when he confirmed to the host he had currently employed FBI agents feeding him red meat for Trump, but later in the day he denied it. One of those statements is a lie.
Now it could have been he exaggerated his connection as there is a former agent, a Trump supporter, who has apparently been lying about the investigations, but he has denied current contact as well. Both of these characters were being feed the same "facts" from the FBI, now known as Full Blown Insurrectionists.
Based on their interviews I have concluded it is more likely, than not, someone in the FBI is feeding at least one of them information/disinformation meant to damage the Clinton campaign.
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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