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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Jeff, dear friend, if we don't take corporate money OUT of the Democratic Party, all of Bernie's good intentions will be for naught.

Well that much is a given, yes?


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There will not, however, be a unilateral disarmament, nor should there be. Obama learned this in his first campaign, after trying mightily to succeed without succumbing. The laws need to change and be applied equally to all parties.


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Jeff, dear friend, if we don't take corporate money OUT of the Democratic Party, all of Bernie's good intentions will be for naught.

Well that much is a given, yes?

One would hope so.


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There will not, however, be a unilateral disarmament, nor should there be. Obama learned this in his first campaign, after trying mightily to succeed without succumbing. The laws need to change and be applied equally to all parties.

So never?


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The path became immeasurably more difficult this week.


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I just did a bunch more research, and put myself in a deep funk. If Trump manages half of what he has promised - a near-term disaster looms. I keep finding more and more reasons to be scared.


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The economic consequences, for the U.S and the world, are disastrous. Economies today are interdependent, and as we know, Trump and his band of merry morons have no conception of what foreign policy is.
Their stupidity could drive not just us, but a better part of the globe, off an economic cliff.
What is worse is that if people like him remain in power in the UK, and take over in France and other European countries, I don't want to even speculate what the results will be.
It is, doubtless, the scariest thing we have ever confronted.


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This is a sonic black hole. Are we headed for this?

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The economic consequences, for the U.S and the world, are disastrous.

That's how I see it. And that's where I see redemption for the rest of us.

For the record, I must say that I hope President Trump succeeds. But looking at the people he's surrounding himself with I have some serious doubts.

I see a rapid deterioration of the economy coming and the tide that rose up to support Donald Trump will recede just as quickly. His supporters have promised to hold his feet to the fire and I expect their disillusionment will be swift and their wrath unprecedented.

There will be a fork in the road at the midterms. By then we should see unemployment rising rapidly, healthcare disappearing for most of the middle class, consumer confidence tumbling and worldwide economic uncertainty. This is the point when Republicans usually double down on everything they are doing wrong, thinking that if they just do more of it things will work out fine. But I'm not sure the voters are going to continue to go along with it.

Donald Trump's agenda is not the agenda of the Republican Party. He's not a conservative and is not passionately dedicated to conservative principles. He's a businessman and when he sees one of his business ventures failing he dumps it. Bankruptcy is not going to be an option this time so he'll have to change the business model or go down with the sinking ship.

The midterms will be the key to his success or failure.


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I agree with your assessment, Greger. There are dark, dark clouds on the horizon.

Trump has demonstrated already that he is not up to the task he has set himself. His circle is full of neophytes, and the only adults in the room have been jettisoned. The administration will quickly be subsumed by lobbyists and cranks, as serious-minded experts are either shunned, or shunning. I don't think that Pence is up to the task of righting this ship.

Russia has already started adventurism - currently bombing the hell out of the rebels in Syria to prop up the Assad regime. China will be next off the block. Foreign affairs will quickly spin out of control, particularly if Giuliani is tapped. He's just unqualified, period.

I am not looking forward to the economic shocks that are inevitable.


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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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