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Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal logtroll #295926 11/11/16 03:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York Ezekiel old hand
Ezekiel old hand Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York	Originally Posted by logtroll Originally Posted by Ezekiel Apparently you have no idea what is going on. There is organization out there. Armchair bullshyte gets you Trump Share, please? I was hoping for discussion here, maybe getting a little outside of the box. What I am getting is vague resistance - talk of looking for some buckets but no thought about where the water will come from. You asked about my efforts... that would be some 30 years of trying to develop workable alternatives to Capitalism. It's not been going well but I have learned a lot. Much of the protest going on around the country is based on Unions, BLM, Green, Student Organizations... In NYC there are dozens of organizations that are actively participating in the demonstrations... but then, you already knew that didn't ya? Do your homework. You're a big boy. You haven't been looking in the right places, it would seem. I have been active in politics going on 45 years. Still am. Will probably die working. But that is not important. Workable alternatives? Ujest Shurly. "The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce "The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal Ezekiel #295928 11/11/16 03:10 PM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 12,004 Likes: 133 One of the Mexicos L logtroll Pooh-Bah
logtroll Pooh-Bah L Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 12,004 Likes: 133 One of the Mexicos	I love your tongue-in-cheek parody of an arrogant ivory tower liberal! Now, when can we discuss some ideas and issues like rational folks? I'm off to work now, so my participation will have to be postponed. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal logtroll #295929 11/11/16 03:20 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York Ezekiel old hand
Ezekiel old hand Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York	Originally Posted by logtroll I love your tongue-in-cheek parody of an arrogant ivory tower liberal! Now, when can we discuss some ideas and issues like rational folks? I'm off to work now, so my participation will have to be postponed. When you actually have some? Glad you like it. Anytime "The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce "The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal Jeffery J. Haas #296223 11/15/16 12:16 AM
Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 362 matthew newbie
matthew newbie Joined: Mar 2016 Posts: 362	Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas I am still digesting the fact that we just let Vladimir Putin SELECT our president. And it's not that easy to memorize the Russian National Anthem. . Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal SJGulitti #296225 11/15/16 01:17 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 17,177 Likes: 254 Whittier, California Jeffery J. Haas It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
Jeffery J. Haas It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 17,177 Likes: 254 Whittier, California	Musically speaking, that happens to be an incredibly beautiful piece. Our old borrowed Welsh drinking song sounds like the baying of starving flea-bitten hounds next to it. I wish we could make the Ray Charles version of "America the Beautiful" into our new anthem. "The Best of the Leon Russell Festivals" DVD deepfreezefilms.com

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal Jeffery J. Haas #296226 11/15/16 01:28 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 12,004 Likes: 133 One of the Mexicos L logtroll Pooh-Bah
logtroll Pooh-Bah L Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 12,004 Likes: 133 One of the Mexicos	Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas Musically speaking, that happens to be an incredibly beautiful piece. Our old borrowed Welsh drinking song sounds like the baying of starving flea-bitten hounds next to it. I wish we could make the Ray Charles version of "America the Beautiful" into our new anthem. I second the wish! You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal Jeffery J. Haas #296229 11/15/16 02:45 AM
Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 729 Likes: 3 Sterling Heights, MI, USA Ujest Shurly journeyman
Ujest Shurly journeyman Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 729 Likes: 3 Sterling Heights, MI, USA	Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas I wish we could make the Ray Charles version of "America the Beautiful" into our new anthem. I also like Neil Diamond's "Coming to America" Hope this video works like the Ray Charles video does... Last edited by Ujest Shurly; 11/15/16 02:50 AM. Vote 2022! Life is like a PB&J sandwich. The older you get, the moldery and crustier you get. Now, get off my grass!

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal matthew #296254 11/15/16 12:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York Ezekiel old hand
Ezekiel old hand Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York	Originally Posted by matthew Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas I am still digesting the fact that we just let Vladimir Putin SELECT our president. And it's not that easy to memorize the Russian National Anthem. . "The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce "The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky

Re: November 2016 - America at the Dawn of the Great Dismal SJGulitti #296257 11/15/16 03:01 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York Ezekiel old hand
Ezekiel old hand Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,388 New York	A fitting homage to Leonard Cohen: "The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." Lenny Bruce "The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month." Dostoevsky

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