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Ken Condon #297352 12/15/16 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken Condon
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Do not expect electors to bail us out.
I too don’t expect the EC to change their votes. I think that would just further serve to sow chaos into our already severely divided nation.
True. The Constitution does require the electors to "vote their conscious." I will also add that this election cycle has already been strange and unpredictable. Hmm

Also too, a major number of electors defied the people's choice in 1796, 1832, 1836, and 1896. smile


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If the EC doesn't vote Trump who knows what "moran" we'll end up with frown


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As opposed to the Moran we'll get if they do...


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Police state: whenever the rights and grievances of workers were the issue the U.S. govt. ALWAYS reacted like a police state. The ruling class will defend its profits with any and all means at its disposal. Trump has only laid bare that reality. He stripped away the euphemistic double speak and basically said: "Yeah, this is who we are. And we will crush anyone who dares threaten it."

For a parallel recall Zappa:

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“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

This is precisely what Zappa was talking about.


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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Police state: whenever the rights and grievances of workers were the issue the U.S. govt. ALWAYS reacted like a police state. The ruling class will defend its profits with any and all means at its disposal. Trump has only laid bare that reality. He stripped away the euphemistic double speak and basically said: "Yeah, this is who we are. And we will crush anyone who dares threaten it."

For a parallel recall Zappa:

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“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

This is precisely what Zappa was talking about.

Zappa, prescient, as always. smile


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As opposed to the Moran we'll get if they do...
Right - hard to imagine they could do worse, but it IS possible.

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" the void is the space of freedom, the absence of certainties. But that's what we fear: not having certainties. So we switched the flight for cages. The cages are the place where certainties live." The Brothers Karamazov, Dostoyevsky.


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Whoo boy... Trump writes "unpresidented" when he meant to write "unprecedented."



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What a moran. I truly think the guy is illiterate.


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Ah Rick, you KNOW he did that on purpose ROTFMOL


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I'm starting to think, maybe he is on the Autism Spectrum. His actions and reactions, his need and want to be in places he knows, his need to have people that he knows be around him, his mistrust of strangers and anything not familiar to him and so on.


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Qui sait????

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In a letter addressed to President Barack Obama, three professors of psychiatry — including one from Harvard Medical School — expressed fears that President-elect Donald Trump’s exhibits signs he may not be mentally fit to assume the presidency.

In the letter, which can be found at The Huffington Post, Judith Herman, M.D. a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School — along with two professors who taught at the University of California, San Francisco — made the appeal to Obama based upon their “grave concern” after watching Trump’s antics.

“We are writing to express our grave concern regarding the mental stability of our President-Elect,” the letter reads. “Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally.”

“His widely reported symptoms of mental instability — including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality — lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office,” it continues. “We strongly recommend that, in preparation for assuming these responsibilities, he receive a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation by an impartial team of investigators.”

This is not the first time questions have arisen over Trump’s mental stability as a world leader — or the stability of his followers.

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