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Never was with her. In fact, I didn't vote this election - first time in my life.   edited to correct the quoted source. Apologies NW Ponderer
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in lieu of another candidate who unified much of the progressive base and had likability ratings even higher than that of the GOP nominee Incredibly naive: The GOP never attacked him because he was their favored opponent. If Sanders had won the nomination, THEN the Republicans would have screamed about him being a Socialist, about all his visits to Communist regimes over the years, and about his early essay supporting pedophilia. All they had on Clinton was that she was sloppy with her email management. Their Bernie attacks would have buried him. Even Democrats would have voted against him. He would have gotten less than 10% of the vote. You think the Rust Belt doesn't like ambitious women? They like commies and child molesters even less, and that's how the GOP, Fox News, Rush, et al would have painted Bernie.
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I am currently IN the rust belt (Western PA) - can't say exactly where for security purposes  . They aren't listening and never have listened to any of this shyte about commies and pedophiles - they voted for Obama twice and he was painted as a socialist, a Muslim, not American, anti-gun (in a place where guns are more common than trees), and he was African American to boot. They voted for him because they believed he was a drastic departure from establishment politics. Turns out they were fooled. Bernie was doing well here during the primaries (you wonder why?) because the folks here don't trust establishment Dems or Repubs. They want someone who will do what can't be done: get rid of the rust and make those smokestacks roar and the machines hum once again. Now: between HRC and Trump which one promised that? Bernie came here and told them the truth: we can't get those jobs back but we can create new jobs. That they can live with. HRC came only once and didn't say much of anything. Trump came several times and told them what they wanted to hear: THAT'S WHY THEY VOTED FOR TRUMP. And of course, they are going to be fooled again. 
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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depends on perspective
conservatives believe there is a Chinese climate hoax, the Bible should be taught in school, legal discrimination, etc ... so from their perspective his decisions would be great greatest fantastic
from the perspective of rational folks and folks who actually believe in the Constitution .... his decisions would not be so good
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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something ironical about people who are incapable of adapting to the world but who can frak a country
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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Contrarian, extraordinaire
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they are going to be fooled again these folks are in a cult .... true believers all doesnt matter how much you expose the truth, they do not believe anything you say nor do they care if it is true the truest statement to come out of this election cycle is, the facts do not matter
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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[quote=NW Ponderer]Never was with her. In fact, I didn't vote this election - first time in my life. , you made that look like I said that.... Fixed 
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they are going to be fooled again these folks are in a cult .... true believers all doesnt matter how much you expose the truth, they do not believe anything you say nor do they care if it is true the truest statement to come out of this election cycle is, the facts do not matter Maybe in your neck of the woods that may be true. Out here in the rust belt, people are already getting the picture. Today, while I was sitting in a "Social Club", a fight broke out between rival Trump supporters. Most of them were pretty pissed. There is a growing number that seem to understand they've been hoodwinked.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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