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not seeing any fractures here but i am interested in what you are seeing

why do these folks feel they have been had?

Many (in the thousands) have been foreclosed on - and Trump's pick for Treasury - Steven Mnuchin - is a four letter word in these parts. He has been associated with multiple cases of illegal foreclosures in the Jtown, Pitt, Winber area, i.e. people who's mortgages should never have been part of the foreclosure, but because of the way the CDOs were bundled, got screwed as collateral damage.
They may not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, but they remember stuff like that.
Also, the head of the Steelworkers union, 1999, has a lot of cred here. When he publicly said that Trump was "lyin' his a$$ off" about saving the Carrier jobs, and then many of them actually heard from people who are losing their jobs at Carrier, they are starting to think they've been conned.
By the way, although they all know where I stand, never have they uttered a word of disrespect in my direction.

ok makes sense

here ( and only generally speaking) the wall is yuuuuuge. so there is a split with some folks apparently anticipating no wall, that Mr Trump used the Wall as a metaphor, while real conservatives who only comprehend language literally believe there will be a yuuuuge wall. So I suppose one group will be disappointed or maybe both if Sen Sessions doesn;t deport every Mexican he rounds up.

i sometimes wonder when these folks say they do not like the direction the country is going what they mean by a different direction?

Most of "these folks" are middle class Americans. They have jobs, they drive nice cars, they own homes, they carry heavy debt. They want better jobs, nicer cars, bigger houses, and the ability to carry even more debt.
They see their tax dollars being spent to help people with less than they have. People who probably don't deserve that help. Immigrants, people of color, the poor, the sick, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse, the homeless, tempest tossed...They want all that government largesse heaped upon themselves.
They speak of better jobs, but oppose a higher minimum wage and union representation. They want lower taxes but an even larger military. They don't trust government but believe that giant multinational corporations will provide all they need if only they are deregulated and given more tax breaks and subsidies.
By electing Trump they have chosen to go in this direction. Take the power from government and give it to the corporations in the (delusional) belief that a rising corporate tide will float their leaky craft rather than sink it deeper.

Real buyers remorse has not set in yet, but it will soon. Donald Trump's rallies will stop when his former supporters turn against him, and mark my words, they will.

He is riding a wave of success for now but the proof will be in the pudding when he, his hopelessly inept cabinet, and a Republican controlled legislature actually take the helm and turn the ship of state hard to starboard.

I tend to agree. My feeling from here is that there is a storm brewing and Trump and his motley cabinet will be at the center of it. And this just might sink the Trumptanic.

as the band played Autumn the apologists will say that is not a ship sinking .... that is America rising

Aye, Cap'n Zeke. It's time to reef the sails and man the pumps.

I think we all know something awful is going to happen in fairly short order. As yet it's hard to pinpoint exactly what form this perfect storm is gonna take but it's going to be ugly and Admiral Trump is going to go down with his entire fleet.

Trump's "successes" are mostly in his mind. His tax returns would have shown how hollow his claims really are - just like his claim to "historic/landslide" election success, or the claim that he won the popular vote. Republicans came home, period. Clinton may yet get more votes than Obama in 2012, but they were not as well distributed.

Trump's election was a three-legged stool: Wikileaks/Russia; vote rigging/suppression by GOP legislatures (especially in Florida, north Carolina and Wisconsin); Comey letter. Remove any one of those three, he loses. Romney got 60,933,504 votes, Trump, 62,979,616. Obama, 65,915,795, Clinton, 65,844,594.

China and Russia are already taking advantage of Trump's ineptitude. Wait until he is sworn in! When the economy tanks, the deficit balloons, foreign events explode, and jobs plummet people will start warming up the tar and plucking chickens. The question will be, will the Democrats be able to get out of their own way?

Prior to his actual election, numerous commentators described Trump and his campaign as "non-ideological". His appointments have proven exactly the opposite. Not only are they in alignment with most republican orthodoxy (science denial, pro-business, anti-tax, anti-environment, anti-regulation), they represent the extremist right version of all of these positions. What a Trump presidency will represent is what happens when a dog catches the car. Most voters rejected his platform, but his ego will not let him accept that. I expect the Republican Congress will behave like the North Carolina GOP - OUT OF CONTROL. I am so dreading the next 2 to 4 years.