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There is a concept in some psycho/philosophical teachings that before any fundamental change can occur, the status quo, characterized as a crystalized state of being, must be melted down in order to be reformed in a new state. This happens naturally, but the result is most often an unconscious and uncontrolled recrystallization into a new state. The new state may be better, worse, or the same as the previous condition.

The trick is to apply enough conscious direction during the recrystallization to achieve some new, more desirable state of being. I think this metaphor applies to the all the great historical blossomings of civilization, including the beginnings of the American experiment. This is not to say that any of the blossomings were perfect, but each was informed by something that came before. Our "founding fathers" certainly put some effort into designing a better system of government than they came out of. This point is the great crack in the "conservative" movement to take back America - it is not supported by any honest effort to design a better system, it is nothing more than a mindless coup.

On the flip side, what plan do the "liberals" have - what plan that can compare to the earnest effort of those creators of the USA?

Trump is giving us the gift of a meltdown of the crystallized status quo (Clinton would not have done that). What shall we do with the opportunity to reform our civilization into a new and better world?

(I do hope that Trump does not extend the meltdown metaphor into a real global nuclear meltdown... that would be harder to recover from).



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A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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President-elect Donald Trump said he "intends to dissolve" the Donald J. Trump Foundation "to avoid even the appearance of any conflict" with his role as president.
Put more accurately, Trump hopes to avoid even the appearance of a lawsuit...


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Still under investigation - can he do that?


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well ... liberals could find a 6'4", 250# bully who will lie his assoff, grope more women than Mr Trump, who will openly offend more people than Mr Trump, and throw a few small tactical nuclear devices in for good measure


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel

Still under investigation - can he do that?
In short, yes. Dissolution of charities.


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well ... liberals could find a 6'4", 250# bully who will lie his ass off...
Trump is 6'2" 260lbs per his "doctor's letter." coffee


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I watched "Miracle On 34th Street" this morning, the original one. They kept questioning the sanity of a kindly old man named Kris Kringle.
They put that kindly old gentleman ON TRIAL, to make absolutely sure he really wasn't batshit insane. All he wanted to do was work at Macy's, being their Santa Claus.
Today we don't seem to have the stomach to question the sanity of a man who says and does things FAR more insane, and he's about to become our President.
Just offering a frame of reference.


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I think Trump is on track to be a dictator. Cult of personality, bullying, propaganda, claiming that the law doesn't apply to him.

I see him becoming comfortable with his new power as supreme leader of the world and going crazy with it.


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I see him becoming comfortable with his new power as supreme leader of the world and going crazy with it.

Three weeks before he even sits down behind that desk we have an arms race with Russia, a trade war with China, a religious war against Muslims, and a race war at home. Class warfare is raging and the war against women goes on unabated. There is a civil war between liberals and conservatives, a war against undocumented immigrants, another against the gay community and yet another against the free press.
But he has promised to end the war against Christmas and guarantees a victory for Christians.
Donald Trump is already drunk on power, far too drunk to drive, but no one, as yet, is threatening to take his keys.


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