Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2016 Worst Case Scenario

short of the untypeable unthinkable, there are two ways to address this situation.
1. impeach & convict him - will never happen as the Republicans/conservatives control government
2. vote him out. Now if he unilaterally declares himself supreme leader and Republicans/conservatives support the move, especially as this may be their last hurrah, he will not be voted out.

The alternative? .... see if you can figure it out

I don't know: It would only require a handful of Republicans in the House to impeach him and just a few Republicans in the Senate to convict. (Democrats in both Houses would probably all vote for it.)

He is really great at pissing people off. That just might include a few Republicans in Congress, especially considering they have Pence to take over. In fact, maybe Pence supporters in Congress would be enough. Pence obviously has a very different ideology from Trump and it might be a very good match for some members of Congress.

Trump will be impeachable on Day 1, for violating the Stock Act.

Have you listened to any Trump surrogates or supporters defend him????? that should be the clue

Republicans/conservatives know they hold a majority predicated on their current ability to gerrymander the states to maintain control. They also believe they have a willing tool who will implement all the ultra right wing policies they have ever dreamed about AND he has "mass" appeal. Gov Pence does not have the appeal nor support from a large group of Trump supporters. Mr Trump could proverbially shoot someone in Times Square and his supporters would smile widely and defend him. So what makes you believe there would be enough support in Congress to try an impeach him?

On the reality front, there are too many Democrats up for election in red states. Politics would "trump" impeaching Mr Trump.

Not even going to lookup Stock Act and here is why. Conservatives for ever have found laws to attack and at the very least to demonize the Clintons and yet when the magnifying glass to put on them, there is really no case. But suppose he is in violation. What makes you believe Republicans would file charges from either Congress or DoJ? Indignation????

These folks are impervious to embarrassment. You could have a video of Mr Trump groping someone and they would defend him. It is all about power. They have have it and they are not willingly going to let it go.

Amen, brother. "Norms" in politics and everyday behavior are predicated on the power of shame, of social consequences. Once McConnell and others demonstrated that they could act with impunity without consequences, it was Katy-bar-the-door. Trump was the inevitable result. Nothing will stop them short of active, physical, unrelenting resistance. That will take much time and a great deal of heartache.

You are assuming Congress is all Republicans and they all act together. I am reminding you that they hold a small majority in the House and a tiny majority in the Senate. If only a few Republican Congressmen decide to give Trump the old heave-ho, they can do it. It doesn't require anywhere near a majority of Republicans. Just 31 Representatives and 6 Senators.

This could easily happen when the administration has some kind of major failure (which seems VERY likely) and enough Republican Congressmen decide Trump is damaging the brand. It would be out of self-preservation: They would fear losing reelection if they keep "failing Trump" as head Republican. Most administrations have little to fear since they are not in violation of an impeachable offence and wouldn't have an earthshaking policy failure, but Trump is "special" that way.

Not so fast! ,

reality check .... pay attention to the primary campaign .... "Dump Trump" .... why would so many who actually do not like nor support many of his policies end up actually voting for him????? you are assuming the right 37 people will help shoot the party in the foot and chop off a leg because you are indignant over Mr Trump's election? perhaps you believe he has actually committed high crimes and misdemeanors .... so you believe the Republican/conservative party would willingly and publicly expose themselves for what they are? Sen McConnell doesn't even want an investigation into the alleged Russian hacking, so why would he even entertain impeachment proceedings?

They are in a far better position to accomplish their regressive agenda than at any time in the past. We will have a cult of personality like none seen in this country since Pres Washington (he coulda been king). Gov Pence is lucky if he can inspire 20 hard right Christians to believe in his agenda of religious hate much less getting 20k people to shout lock her up. Why would 37 people jeopardize fulfilling that agenda.

Listen to the apologists from even establishment Republicans. Why he is not a politician (somehow that obviated he being a human) .... he is a successful businessman (which translates as the rules do not apply to him) ... etc. They have excuses, not reasons, for everything he does, so why expose themselves to the carade?

There is far more to suggest nothing will come of it even if the economy craters or we go to war with someone else.

The best alternatives are for Congressional Democrats to fight for best compromise available or created and fill the ammo box with the assured regressive policies which will be implemented. Even the ignorant can be influenced in another direction.

I am not saying they will do it. I'm just saying they could, and it would take a surprisingly small number of Republicans because almost half the Congress is Democratic and up for it.

I do admire your unbridled and enthusiastic optimism but there comes a time when people must hold fast, bare knuckle white, to reality.

For you, the "fact" Mr Trump is an abject deplorable human on too many facets to count, still does not fill the indictment sheet with any credible crime worthy of impeachment.

The Democrats could be "little" and pursue some fishing expedition (if they could even get it to committee) and find out Mr Trump groped someone, or there were some filing errors, or mitigated infractions of law in the foundation, or etc. I would not look favorably on an investigation only to find salacious tidbits of his life (like I am interested).

So let me ask this question, what would it take for you to believe Pres Obama has committed high crimes and misdemeanors worthy of impeachment proceedings? Your answer should be the clue.