Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2016 Worst Case Scenario

To ratify or repeal an amendment, they need 38 states.
The Republican Party now controls 37 state houses.
By 2018 the Kochs will have screwed Nebraska and will take control, making it 38.

That is when you will see the following amendments repealed:
1st Amendment modified so that it protects evangelical Christians only, followed by the 22nd, 14th, 16th and 17th amendments.

14th amendment to remove birthright citizenship.
16th amendment to return slection of Senators to the State Legislatures (i.e.- Corporately owned State Legislatures)
17th Amendment to eliminate Federal Income Taxes.

And the crown jewel, repeal of the 22nd thus making it possible to keep a Republican president FOR LIFE if they want, which will not be difficult now that they have Citizens United, gerrymandering, no more Voting Rights Act, corporate owned and controlled electronic voting machines and a cooperative electoral college.

Your main assumption being that there is no opposition? I doubt that very much.

Long Live The Opposition! May they long be a pox on the opposition.

You seem to be unaware of the Stock Act, which applies even to the President and VP, and which makes it a crime to make any financial move that is informed by your office. Trump is violating that law right now and will continue to do so until he sells all of his businesses and puts the money in a real blind trust. (Not something run by his children.)

I'm not saying they will ever do it, but legally he will be impeachable on January 20th,2017 and probably every day of his administration after that. They only thing that prevents it is the Republican majority in The House. So Trump will be very much a prisoner of the House Republicans. If they have some sort of conflict over some screw-up of his, a small faction could impeach him.

It will be fun to watch, as his support drops steadily over broken promises. Of course, everything the Republicans do will be fun to watch since they always manage to shoot themselves in both feet as soon as they have power.

ok you forced me to read the cliff note version of the act and its gutting.

Basically you have to prove someone in the organization was privy to financial information and then those folks acted on that information to profit from it. With the help of a good attorney I can prove "is" is not "is" and 1=0. I suspect it would take an enormous bevy of investigators and attorneys to even attempt a proof. Making good choices for investment is not a crime (even though it could be) and their argument would be predicated on a pattern of lifetime good choices.

They may both believe they have each other over a barrel, but there is little to no evidence to suggest Republicans would abandon Mr Trump. They have an ultra conservative cabinet which will immediately try to turn back the clock and Mr Trump is the linchpin in that effort.

So what kinda of things would his own party consider for impeachment? His supporters may not care if he kills someone in Times Square but Congress may. However, have you ever heard of a party which wanted to impeach a president for policies they endorse but which tanked the economy, started wars, etc????

Conservatives routinely promoted the idea Pres Obama should be impeached for a wide range of nonsensical beliefs but which were all grounded in law. The reality was they were reaching for straws.

I recommend you not hold onto this tenuous thread of hope Mr Trump will be or could be impeached on some flimsy charge. I suggest proactive responses to any regressive initiatives Republicans will propose, which will in turn be far more constructive.

Remember, Vote 2018

If President Trump loses access to twitter, how will his Twitter-uptions manifest themselves? I'm seriously concerned.

Ah, but you are forgetting that he would be impeached in The House and tried in The Senate, not in a court of law. He might have the best lawyers in the world but if Congress wanted to impeach and convict him, they don't have to prove anything! They simply need a crime he is technically guilty of and then the Senate acts as jury. They would not have to follow the rules of evidence, constitutionality, or anything. They would simply have to have the votes. Strictly a political act and poof, Pence is President.

For example, they could vote to end ACA and he could veto it, since he did make various campaign promises and would lose a HUGE amount of popular support if he signed that. Then a small percentage of Congress could impeach and convict him EITHER WAY!. The problem is that Republicans have made a whole lot of stupid proposals over the past 8 years, and anything they do can backfire.

Or they could touch Social Security or Medicare, the notorious Third Rail of American politics. Same result, and they seem pretty intent on self-immolation.

Herodotus - Histories [circa 440 BC] - ascribed the fall of empires to:



Does it not sound familiar?

Yes it is correct only a few of the right folks have to agree and they could impeach and convict but that is not the issue.

All of your comments are based on a belief at least some Republicans/conservatives share your indignation AND are willing to impeach etc. And that is the problem.

Do campaign promises count? not likely. What if the economy tanks? again, not likely. Remember, most Republicans were only cordial at best in their support for Mr Trump and since his election they are on board, even if they disagree with some of his statements etc.

The 3rd rail only applies to those who believe in it. Republicans/conservatives believe and for a long time all entitlements should be privatized. Republicans/conservatives have a long history of propaganda against all government programs. Their constituency does not see it as a problem.

The bottom line, I see that a lot of Republican/conservatives could be upset with Mr Trump for any number of reasons (and they all seem to defend him anyway) but that does not translate into a vote to convict him in an impeachment proceeding.