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So do you think she will actually take clues from Trump's spews, or is she just going to create an entire semi-rational set of positions out of whole cloth?
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U.N. council members meeting to decide on push to end settlements - Reuters. An earlier version of the story discussed the discussions between Netanyahu and Trump to block US ABSTENTION. Here it is: U.S. intended to allow passage of U.N. draft critical of Israel: officials. The United States intended to allow the U.N. Security Council to approve a resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlement building, two Western officials said on Thursday, a major reversal of U.S. practice, which prompted Israel to ask President-elect Donald Trump to apply pressure.
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Israel's far-right and settler leaders have been buoyed by the election of Trump, who has signaled a possible change in U.S. policy by tapping a fundraiser for a major Israeli settlement as Washington's ambassador to Israel.
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A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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the settlement question dates back to 1922. The LoN decided to allow European Jews the right to establish a sovereign state in the Palestine Mandate and proposed a 2-state solution, so eventually there would be a state created for immigrant Jews and a state for local palestinians.
Fundamental to any effort to achieve the 2-state requires Palestinians actually have some land. Settlements undermine any legitimate effort to succeed.It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that continued settlements is an implicit admission there will never be a 2-state.
The US should sustain any votes which condemn continued settlements in the West Bank.
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without equality there is no liberty
Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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the settlement question dates back to 1922. The LoN decided to allow European Jews the right to establish a sovereign state in the Palestine Mandate and proposed a 2-state solution, so eventually there would be a state created for immigrant Jews and a state for local palestinians.
Fundamental to any effort to achieve the 2-state requires Palestinians actually have some land. Settlements undermine any legitimate effort to succeed.It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that continued settlements is an implicit admission there will never be a 2-state.
The US should sustain any votes which condemn continued settlements in the West Bank. But playing to a certain demographic has always inhibited that on the part of U.S. politicians. Not that it should be seen as anti-Israel, on the contrary, if there were any real interest in reaching a 2-state solution, those settlements would have been stopped long ago. It's the wingnuts that gum up the works. BTW - the wingnuts (in the U.S.) win once more: ![[Linked Image from s23.postimg.org]](https://s23.postimg.org/3q814qypn/snip1.png)
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Now, how do we square this poll with Schumer backing Trump with respect to Res: 2334: Jstreet.org published this poll in Nov. taken amongst American Jews. ![[Linked Image from s24.postimg.org]](https://s24.postimg.org/5ligjxxqt/Poll.png) 62% supported abstaining or supporting.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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This was vomited by Carl Palladino, co-chair of Trump's campaign in NY. ![[Linked Image from s27.postimg.org]](https://s27.postimg.org/hu3con4cz/Palladino.png) So, when do the gloves come off?
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
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American nouveau riche trash: ![[Linked Image from uploads.disquscdn.com]](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d5ba5edf150be60e4e624d4be1679b83f3bf19528a34a7e83557412cc1406c60.png)
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Mormon Tabernacle Singer Quits Before Inauguration Performance: I can't 'throw roses to Hitler'
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As we get closer to the reality of a Trump Presidency, I become more convinced of its inevitable disaster. I Don't know how bad it will get, but I can't see any good in it.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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As we get closer to the reality of a Trump Presidency, I become more convinced of its inevitable disaster. I Don't know how bad it will get, but I can't see any good in it. It's not going to be good. It will be a conservatives wet dream: Defunding the National School Lunch Program, getting rid of federal overtime rules - you know the stuff the middle class depend on. If Trump really does eliminate the NSLP and federal overtime rules - the aholes who voted for Trump will get what they deserve. 
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