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The only hope is with the Senate since they are elected statewide. Not really much hope there either. The 2018 Senate races are stacked in Republicans favor. Only 8 Republican seats will be up for re-election and Democrats must defend 23. The only thing that might save us is an unpopular war or two(say with China and Iran) and a complete failure of the economy. Hit Republican voters deep in their pocketbooks and kill a bunch of their kids and they might, though I deem it unlikely, admit that they made a mistake.
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The only hope is with the Senate since they are elected statewide. Not really much hope there either. The 2018 Senate races are stacked in Republicans favor. Only 8 Republican seats will be up for re-election and Democrats must defend 23. I know, not much hope there, but at least there is a little bit.
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The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
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A journey of 218,959,000 votes begins with one vote.
A little change locally in 2018 and a little change locally in 2020 can change the whole map in 2022.
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Vote 2022!
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A little change locally in 2018 and a little change locally in 2020 can change the whole map in 2022. Oh we're gonna get plenty of change in the next few years. But certainly not the kind we were hoping for in 2008.
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Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived
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Is a military coup possible? The Washington Power Establishment Is Beginning to Align Against Trump The NSC's decisions are hashed out at what is known as the Principals Meeting, which has always included top military and intelligence officials. Bannon's elevation coincided with the exclusion of General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and thus the nation's top military commander. This is not the work of unhappy liberals or even the usual partisan warfare. Some of these people were loyal to presidents Obama and Clinton. Others are conservatives who much preferred President George W. Bush and his father. The signatories include two generals, two admirals, 11 brigadier generals, 10 major-generals, and seven lieutenant-generals, not to mention two former CIA directors and seven ambassadors.
The same day, more than 1,000 State Department officials signed an official dissent against Trump’s order. Having never been in the military I have a question: Do military personnel take an oath to support the president or the constitution?
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They swear to defend the Constitution, but the President is their Commander-In-Chief. They have an OBLIGATION to disobey illegal orders, so if he does something like order killing terrorists families or using torture they refuse or face War Crimes trials.
They executed people for War Crimes after WW II.
But short of illegal, he can order all sorts of really stupid things that they know are stupid, and they have to do them. Unless there is a federal court order to the contrary.
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In less than two weeks, Trump has betrayed nearly all of his promises to "help the little guy." (Who ever believed that, anyway?) His moves on Dodd-Frank and appointments are directly tied to lining his own pockets and hurting the middle class. Since the GOP is already in that camp, the pain is going to be deep and lasting: President Trump’s first actions i... lot more expensive for the middle class. So, making home ownership more difficult, that's pro middle class, right? Donald Trump’s Excuse for Gutting Wall Street Regulations Is Hilariously Flimsy. Removing the "fiduciary rule" so that investment advisors can cover their bottom line, and don't have to worry about representing their clients' interests. That certainly is for the middle class, isn't it? How Republicans' border taxes would hurt consumers. Tariffs, yeah, that's the ticket! Or let's just tax them directly!
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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In less than two weeks, Trump has betrayed nearly all of his promises to "help the little guy." (Who ever believed that, anyway?) His stoopid base.  It's truly odd how high school educated blue collar workers like his base thinks that they have something in common with rich people who view them as peasants.
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Is a military coup possible?
Having never been in the military I have a question: Do military personnel take an oath to support the president or the constitution? With an educated and aware professional soldier the likely hood of a military coup is small, but not none existent. When you are sworn in you take an oath to the Constitution, to protect and defend it from all enemyies both foreign and domestic. Part of the oath also says to obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me. If you refuse an order you will be Courts Martialed you have to prove the order was illegal. That is why any soldier has the right to ask for any given order to be given to him in writing. When I was in, execution was still a lawful sentence for certain crimes. Disobeying an order in combat was one of them. 20 years, US Army retired in 89
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Vote 2022!
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Now, get off my grass!
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