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I'm on a run to pick up a load, but I'll be back with details tonight.
The confirmation of DeVos today demonstrates that the GOP has absolutely NO standard for acceptability for nominees. That makes Gorsuch almost unavoidable.
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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That makes Gorsuch almost unavoidable. Only if they go 'nuclear.' 
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Why wouldn't they? NO STANDARDS.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Why wouldn't they? NO STANDARDS. I know, look at what they did to Merrick Garland. A CONservative on another site said "NEVER" in history has a lame-duck President nominated a SCOTUS judge. I pointed out the it's happened six times. These right-wingers get their talking points and believe and spread the lies far and wide. I believe the term is useful idiots.
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Posted by a FB friend: "To my conservative family and friends: You have been given a gift. The gift is this: Your guy won, your team has the House and the Senate. And it's going... not great. My charge to you is this: figure out how you want to be represented in history. You are on the cusp of being the party that rose up and fought for what you told us you stood for, or you can be the people we have to explain to our children when they ask why no one fought the breakdown of our democracy.
If you voted for the president or a Republican senator because you believe in fiscal conservatism, you should be furious that your tax dollars are going to build a wall that will have zero impact on the effects of immigration.
If you hate the left because of "Political Correctness," you need to be asking yourself if you're okay with the President censoring communications from MULTIPLE government organizations like the National Park Service, the EPA and more.
If you voted because you hated Secretary Clinton's email server, I expect you to be calling your representatives to ask why Steve Bannon and others continue to use their unsecured personal emails and why your president is using an unsecured Android device still. If you voted because you believed there would be better protection against terrorists, you need to ask yourself why it's okay that your president just took away $130 million in anti-terror funds from New York with his punishment of Sanctuary Cities.
If you are angry that your insurance is too expensive, you should ask why your senators are repealing ACA without a replacement, an action that will leave 20 million people without insurance at all.
If you believe the Clinton initiative provided unequal treatment to countries that supported their foundation, you should be livid that your president has moved to block visas from Muslim countries like Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, but not places where he has business ties like Egypt, Qatar, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.
This is an opportunity to prove that you voted for the reasons you say you did. I am taking you seriously; I am taking you literally." -Levi Frerichs
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Oh, Jeffery...your friend just doesn't get it does he?
They hate government and they want to destroy it. That's why they voted like they voted. Is this something new? Something radical? Why no. It's been going on for a long time.
Just looking back in the annals of history we can see that the first Republican President was a "backwoods lawyer", a former saloon owner who loved telling filthy jokes and starting Civil Wars. If you'll recall...a Democrat shot him. He was followed by Ulysses S. Grant(not even his real name, he was born Hiram Ulysses Grant) He was president during what is fondly called The Gilded Age, a lovely time when the rich grew incredibly rich and the President got incredibly drunk. To the dismay of Republicans, some of them weren't really so bad. There was William McKinley(assassinated) and James Garfield(also assassinated) and Theodore Roosevelt(almost assassinated) But they began to get a handle on what they really wanted in a President when they elected a successful businessman and mining engineer, Herbert Hoover. I don't need to point out that he was at the helm for the stock market crash in 1929 that led up to the Great Depression. More recently they elected a washed up old Hollywood actor who lowered taxes then raised them, then raised them again but not enough to keep him from ballooning the national debt. He was also almost assassinated, and then slept through most of the rest of his presidency. And then there was George Walker Bush, who ran for office to avenge his father's loss to Bill CLinton. A man who ignored warnings that an attack on America was imminent, started two illegal and unfunded wars because his besties were heavily invested in war materiel and oil and oversaw the stock market crash that led to the Great Recession. Foolishly we thought they could never do worse than George W. Bush.
We were wrong.
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Oh, Jeffery...your friend just doesn't get it does he?
They hate government and they want to destroy it. That's why they voted like they voted. Is this something new? Something radical? Why no. It's been going on for a long time.
Just looking back in the annals of history we can see that the first Republican President was a "backwoods lawyer", a former saloon owner who loved telling filthy jokes and starting Civil Wars. If you'll recall...a Democrat shot him. He was followed by Ulysses S. Grant(not even his real name, he was born Hiram Ulysses Grant) He was president during what is fondly called The Gilded Age, a lovely time when the rich grew incredibly rich and the President got incredibly drunk. To the dismay of Republicans, some of them weren't really so bad. There was William McKinley(assassinated) and James Garfield(also assassinated) and Theodore Roosevelt(almost assassinated) But they began to get a handle on what they really wanted in a President when they elected a successful businessman and mining engineer, Herbert Hoover. I don't need to point out that he was at the helm for the stock market crash in 1929 that led up to the Great Depression. More recently they elected a washed up old Hollywood actor who lowered taxes then raised them, then raised them again but not enough to keep him from ballooning the national debt. He was also almost assassinated, and then slept through most of the rest of his presidency. And then there was George Walker Bush, who ran for office to avenge his father's loss to Bill CLinton. A man who ignored warnings that an attack on America was imminent, started two illegal and unfunded wars because his besties were heavily invested in war materiel and oil and oversaw the stock market crash that led to the Great Recession. Foolishly we thought they could never do worse than George W. Bush.
We were wrong. Yeah no kidding. Both recent Republican prezzies also have this in common: More Americans voted against them, than for them, and it was only because of parliamentary rules is how they got to be president*.
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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Trump is a far greater threat to our democratic institution than most imagine. The DeVos confirmation demonstrates this, as I'd noted, but Trump’s instincts are inherently bad, as we're Richard Nixon's, and it was only the tapes that ended that chapter: The 45th president, Donald Trump, might pose the gravest threat to the constitutional order since the 37th. Of course, he might not. Perhaps we’ll get Grown-up Trump, an unorthodox and controversial president who, whatever one may think of his policies and personality, proves to be responsible and effective as a chief executive. But we might get Infantile Trump, an undisciplined narcissist who throws tantrums and governs haphazardly. Or perhaps, worse yet, we’ll get Strongman Trump, who turns out to have been telegraphing his real intentions when, during the campaign, he spread innuendo and misinformation, winked at political violence, and proposed multiple violations of the Constitution and basic decency. Quite probably we’ll get some combination of all three (and possibly others). the Atlantic.com But Trump is not the only threat. Don't forget Mitch McConnell's anti-democratic, heavy-handed rule in the Senate - which just yesterday silenced Elizabeth Warren for reading their own record, on the flimsy excuse that she was demeaning a colleague - No, she was discussing a nominee. The GOP is an authoritarian institution careening toward National Socialism. I'm not sure they even see the parallels, they're so intoxicated by their grip on power.
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A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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T he GOP is an authoritarian institution careening toward National Socialism. I'm not sure they even see the parallels, they're so intoxicated by their grip on power. Candidates lie. Politicians lie. Segments of the media have been known to lie. What never lies are the numbers...Wages, unemployment, the stock market, deficit spending, national debt. Numbers of boots on the ground and troops killed. Failing students and failing schools. Deaths due to lack of insurance, failing hospitals due to lack of insured patients, skyrocketing healthcare costs. They may be drunk on power now but failed policy produces hard numbers. Though they haven't really even begun their reign of terror their day of reckoning is already before them.
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