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Pooh-Bah
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If their was one person in the White House with any brains, they would cancel that EO and write one directing all the vetting agencies to review their procedures to see if they can improve their process in any way. It may not really be possible (since they are working perfectly now) but I assume most of them could come up with something that would LOOK like an improvement. Like make a waiting period 90 days instead of 60. Then Trump could write another EO directing them to do some of those and declare victory. But of course we now have a head-butting contest that won't stop until somebody passes out. It will go the the Supreme Court and lose, badly. I would not be surprised at a 8:0 decision. Maybe this is all it takes to make Trump resign in a tantrum?
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It appears the 9th is preparing to dogpile on Trump en banc, I'm specuating, as a well-deserved bitchslap for the judicial insults tendered by the narcissistic one.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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Moderator Carpal Tunnel
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9th Circuit Judge Wants Another Vote over Trump Travel Ban Decision - LawNewz. I think this is what you were referring to, log? A couple of quick programming notes: First, any judge can request an en banc review, and I have an idea which judge it might have been (a Bush appointee), but it requires a majority vote of the entire 29-member Court to have it. Neither party has petitioned for it. It is extremely unusual for a court to take an en banc review on its own motion, and I don't think that will happen here. Instead, I think that one of the judges was upset that there was no dissent from the panel's decision and wants an opportunity to put his/her objection in writing to burnish their conservative bona fides.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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All he/she has to do is say there is no one to his/her right.
Extremism is the litmus test for detection of righteous conservatism
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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Nearly all of the "defects" can be cured Overlooked is the language these folks use to describe the imminent threat. The EO was a simple Muslim ban for 7 countries. They thought they could get away with the 7 since they were listed during the Obama presidency by Congress and used by Pres Obama to slow entry while revising vetting. The rationale is the vetting was lax as in almost non-existent (Gorka likes to say, one such interview was just 30 sec's long), just 2 years long. What was never mentioned by anyone is, if the applicant did not have proper papers or they could not be verified in some way, THEY COULD NOT ENTER. Further the administration mentioned many times the inability of the vetting process to guarantee terrorists would not slip by the weak almost non-existent rules in place. So how can they guarantee their paradigm would be better or would work any better than the one already in use? They can't. What they can do to prevent any terrorists from entering the US is to stop all immigration of any kind and start deporting anyone who has entered in the last 16 years. I suspect a blanket Muslim ban is what Bannon/Gorka/Flynn (otherwise known as the Troika of Islamophobia) have in mind. The problem was to find something which appeared to be Constitutional(like an EO) and start with that.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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Speaking of Flynn, looks like we have our first Traitor of the present administration. Working with an un-friendly government to undermine then current government policies and actions. With reason to believe these actions by Flynn were on going before the November elections.
Personal opinion, Lt. General Michael Flynn (Retired) should be summarily shot if the current allegations are proved correct.
Vote 2022!
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Now, get off my grass!
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I don't think he can be summarily shot. No one in the Trump administration can add.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Where is my drumroll-cymbal crash?
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Nearly all of the "defects" can be cured Overlooked is the language these folks use to describe the imminent threat. The EO was a simple Muslim ban for 7 countries. They thought they could get away with the 7 since they were listed during the Obama presidency by Congress and used by Pres Obama to slow entry while revising vetting.. Bannon thinks that writing something on the back of a napkin and having President* Trump sign it is good law-making. 
Contrarian, extraordinaire
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Here's an interesting article: Trump Aides Keep Leaking Embarrassing Stories About How He Can’t Handle Embarrassment Nearly a dozen of Trump’s closest confidantes helped plant an embarrassing news story about how their boss can’t handle embarrassing news stories. Which is to say: A president who prizes loyalty in his subordinates has already been betrayed by a huge swath of his inner circle.
It isn’t hard to understand why Trump’s aides would want to distance themselves from the mogul’s decision to begin his presidency by shouting self-aggrandizing delusions at CIA employees, congressional leaders, and the Fourth Estate. But we aren’t in the late days of a losing campaign, when it’s normal for advisers to start leaking dirt on the boss to save their reputations. Sounds like his staff can all see their time working in the White House is going to be over soon: That feeling it doesn't matter what you do because you're going to be fired shortly, and it will be a relief. Probably how Ivana and Marla feel.
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