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You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete. R. Buckminster Fuller
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True that Congress should have been presented the evidence and given the go ahead. And that could have happened very quickly, because it has a lot of support on both sides of the aisle.
However, the Iraq experience is a false analogy. The Bush administration WANTED desperately to depose Saddam, so they cooked the intel to support it. Trump wanted to stop opposing Assad and leave him in place. Changing to the attack posture meant this had to change drastically which is rather embarrassing and goes against Trump's affinity for Putin. If anything, the current administration would cook the intel to say it was somebody else. But they didn't.
Probably because the intel is satellite video of the Syrian air force loading the gas bombs onto the planes, flying to the delivery site, and dropping the bombs.
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It would be interesting to know how pissed the Russians are about the chemical weapons. Are they complicit, of ineffective? Some people are saying™ the air strike destroyed Russian chemical weapons used by Syria on its attack of its own people. Kinda of like a bro covering another bro's back for helping to influence an election. 
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Interesting to note that in 2013, ninety-eight Republican Congressional politicians signed a letter stating that Obama would have to ask Congress permission to bomb Syria for using chemical weapons. Now that a white guy is back in Office as president - it's ok not to have to ask. Clearly it's wrong to bomb, without asking, while black. 
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Now that a white guy is back in Office as president - it’s ok not to have to ask. Having a black (ni---r) in the White House was just too much for many to handle. Other excuses were tossed about as to Obama’s “incompetence”, but distilled to the essence that was indeed his “sin".It will be a very long while before that mistake will be repeated again.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Now that a white guy is back in Office as president - it’s ok not to have to ask. Having a black (ni---r) in the White House was just too much for many to handle. Other excuses were tossed about as to Obama’s “incompetence”, but distilled to the essence that was indeed his “sin".It will be a very long while before that mistake will be repeated again. Many CONservatives substituted the word "incompetence" for their own belief that black humans are intellectually inferior to CONservatives, who, oh say, happen to be white humans.
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Now that a white guy is back in Office as president - it’s ok not to have to ask. Having a black (ni---r) in the White House was just too much for many to handle. Other excuses were tossed about as to Obama’s “incompetence”, but distilled to the essence that was indeed his “sin".It will be a very long while before that mistake will be repeated again. This brings us back to the old "what if only" scenarios. My favorite is if Gore had been "erected" instead of W! Result: no Iraq invasion, more likely resolution of Afghanistan situation, and enthusiastic support of global climate challenges and solutions, and EVEN more importantly no Bush Appointee to the SCROTUS. No loss of civil rights voting laws, no Citizens United, need I go further? Had Hillary been elected instead of Obama where would we be now? Obama could not afford, politically or culturally, to be seen as an angry Black Male, but Hillary could not have avoided being characterized as an angry white B@#$%, who would have to have been taken very seriously as a potent threat to the GOP. She and Bill had a list of enemies, and would not have hesitated to punish them. I very much doubt that the resulting sexism could have compared to the minimally concealed racism incited by Obama. After all, more than 50% of Americans, do not have a penis, and it would be harder to erect a potent anti-female attack than an attack on an illegitimate black from Kenya , who most of the low information voters knew, in their hearts, had no right to be in the white house, with black children no less, while they were sentenced to 30 years to life in a double wide. Go ahead and try to diagram that sentence! So who would be pres now had Hillary prevailed 8 years ago? Maybe Biden, Doubt Sanders, but there is little doubt that we could be worse off than we are now. Without Obama, there would have been no catchy rationale for the racist Teaparty, and no T-rump. Which brings up my new proposal for resolving Presidential succession issues in SCROTUS. South Korea just dumped their Pres through impeachment, and are scheduling a do-over election, rather than handing the government over to a corrupt election. We are obviously not as advanced as South Korea, or maybe even North Korea. I think that when the presidency is cast to the SCROTUS, as may be happening soon, if we follow South Korea's enlightened lead, that rather than let the crucial determination be determined by corrupt political appointees, the fair and rational solution would to have a presidential possession arrow determine the outcome. Bush V Gore went to the GOP, so now the possession arrow should go to the Democrats. Who could argue that basketball rules should be more rational than determination of the presidency? Tat
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Now that a white guy is back in Office as president - it’s ok not to have to ask. Having a black (ni---r) in the White House was just too much for many to handle. Other excuses were tossed about as to Obama’s “incompetence”, but distilled to the essence that was indeed his “sin".It will be a very long while before that mistake will be repeated again. This brings us back to the old "what if only" scenarios. My favorite is if Gore had been "erected" instead of W! Result: no Iraq invasion, more likely resolution of Afghanistan situation, and enthusiastic support of global climate challenges and solutions, and EVEN more importantly no Bush Appointee to the SCROTUS. No loss of civil rights voting laws, no Citizens United... No ISIS, universal healthcare, stable world economy because the middle east was never broken...
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Elections have consequences: Vote for idiots and you get idiotic policies, idiotic actions, and idiotic results.
Collectively, America chose all these. What does that say about us?
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