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A serious question: Is it better that Trump jettison the worst of his advisors and slow his collapse, or keep them so we know what he's really failing to do?
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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I am not sure any Trump supporters (meaning those who go apesheis at his rallies) would find anything "wrong" with any of his appointments.
I am not sure from a political perspective if it is better to have extreme right wing nuts as advisors or simply nuts as advisors.
Suppose he fired Bannon. That would leave Preibus, VP Pence, and the Kushner complex as advisors. as advisors (his foreign policy team has been moving slowly to a more cohesive platform). Kushner has no political experience, leaving Preibus, who I suspect has no real influence on Mr Trump and VP Pence , who I suspect does. VP Pence's agenda to destroy government is more typical of conservatives to disguise it vis a vis Bannons approach to be transparent about it.
I suspect Mr Trump will become more heavily influenced by the extremists, who will slow walk government into a comatose state.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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Rpi, you ID'd my conundrum like an ICE agent with "VP Pence's agenda to destroy government is more typical of conservatives to disguise it vis a vis Bannons approach to be transparent about it." And I agree with your assessments: Bannon's disdain is out front, Pence is a smooth liar and devious, and Priebus is simply incompetent. Trump has all of these traits, all the time, and all at once. People forget that Priebus has no government experience - he's been a party functionary his whole life. And I think this is all reflected in the administration's efforts to do everything solely through the GOP.
The budget deal is the first bipartisan action this term, and that's because trump had nothing to do with it. In the future, this is the only pattern that will work.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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The Hill is reporting Seb Gorkas, the Hungarian Hurt, is stepping down from his position in the administration. He apparently had a Ph.D. from Trump U (or similar "school") and was allegedly affiliated with some dubious political organizations. The last time I checked-in on my ol' buddy Sebastian Gorka, he was very busy doing NOT Nazi stuff. Like waving his spiffy new name badge around the halls of the White House. And blocking people on Twitter. And hollering at college students. And polishing up his Hungarian medals - which are a tribute to his father, and totally NOT in a Nazi way! ...and he was insisting He was that he must be called DOCTOR GORKA. Because he heals the disease of Islamofascism??? I'm not sure. While living in the UK, DOCTOR GORKA was just a kid who’d majored in philosophy. But when this stupendous human being moved back to Hungary, his history while living in the UK was "beefed-up" a bit: Gorka was a Founder of a Think Tank, a Serious Political Figure and A Former Agent of Britain’s Intelligence Service MI6. OR, he was just a total bullshitter. In 2002, DOCTOR GORKA’s request for security clearance for a Hungarian parliamentary committee was denied. Tell us Ranters why Hungarian Parliament: The intelligence officer said the investigation for his security clearance did not believe Gorka was being candid. “These claims were not considered credible because by this point we understood that Gorka and many like him didn’t return to Hungary because of patriotism or skills but rather because they couldn’t be successful in the West, where they were born or raised, and thus wanted to come to Hungary,” the officer said. “So do we believe that he was an MI6 agent like he claimed? No, he’s not smart enough or well-trained enough.” Oh snap!  I did NAZI that coming!
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this is the only pattern that will work It struck me while listening to some commentary about Mr Trumps negotiating skills and Congress that he does not have the necessary skills for this reason. All of his RE negotiations are simple minded bilateral compromises. Passing some bills in Congress requires a multi-dimensional negotiating skill set. The WH interjecting itself in negotiations with the HFC has complicated the chances of getting the Republican caucus to pass the bill. It was always going to be difficult with the conservatives but possible. And as you noted, no where to be found is a sniff of Democrat participation. I am still trying to figure out what Democrats could possibly compromise on. Do they legalize discrimination? Throw away any chance of managing the climate? Do they live the lie about coal? Will they agree to the largest tax cut in history ... for what? Jobs? ... Infrastructure? Will they sell entitlements to the conservatives to privatize them? The fundamental disconnect is whether a party sees the government as a villain or the helping hand it is suppose to be. Would any conservative vote for a health care plan which was cheaper and covered more people than anything Republicans have offered if the government had anything to do with it? No Republican plan can make the necessary guarantees which would allay the fears of people regarding pre-existing, lifetime caps, etc. Where does Mr Trump fit into this scheme? He should continue the kindergarten class photo ops and stay out of the Capitol.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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President Trump acts, clearly, as if he's mentally ill. There is no way nice way to frame that statement. 
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DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features: Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it Exaggerating your achievements and talents Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people Requiring constant admiration Having a sense of entitlement Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations Taking advantage of others to get what you want Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others Being envious of others and believing others envy you Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...ty-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568If you think that describes Mr Trump .... honk
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There is not an element of that description that does NOT apply to Trump. HONK, honk honk honk honk....
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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