There is a bigger picture here that is not being addressed, although... again, this has been discussed way back in the thread. When ANYONE wants to use someone else's property, they have to compensate them, right? The going rate in Nevada for grazing fees is $15.00+ a month per head (called AUM). Bundy won't pay that, either. Federal grazing fees are only $1.69 AUM.

PIA is, of course, right. Nevada doesn't want the federal land. As I pointed out months ago, nobody wanted the land when the federal government offered it up a century ago, and they don't want it now. Bundy just wants to get for free what everyone else pays for. That's really all that is going on here.

I'm sure that Swede isn't really sympathetic to thieves and miscreants, he's just a little unclear on the facts and reality of the situation, and immune to persuasion.

A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich