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Manafort's plea deal: *Paul Manafort has to give the government whatever documents they ask for, and also do whatever Robert Mueller says, because Robert Mueller is Manafort's new Boss. *Paul Manafort has testify wherever the Government tells him to, about whomever they tell him to. That includes the grand jury - with NO COUNSEL PRESENT *Paul Manafort BETTER NOT LIE. * Paul Manafort better understand that he's not getting sentenced until the government says he's done cooperating. * Paul Manafort gave-up his right to plead the 5th Amendment ================= The best part? All of the assets that Muller seized owned-by Paul Manafort are worth more than what the Mueller investigation has cost so far. Essentially, this investigation has now cost the taxpayer $0, with money left-over. #Winning
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Plus, the charges were read to the judge so it's now public record in case Fatboy stifles the end report. Mueller plays 3D chess really well. 
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"The Best People" are the ones who bow and scrape before his royal orangeness. Donors, lackeys, and sycophants. Bootlicking hangers on and fans from years gone by. His cronies, his pals, his whores, and his pimps.
NOT the people best qualified for the jobs he gives them.
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Obviously Trump's "best" is not what normal people would call best.  Plus the first clue is the guy has filed six times for business bankruptcy. The guy is a total loser, yet his base think he's grand.  Having an IQ above room temperature is not a requirement for voting for POTUS, clearly. 
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Perhaps they are voting for one of their own. We have been told that he speaks at a fourth grade level which puts him, approximately, at mentally 10 years old.
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Consider this: what if Mueller, who has decades of experience working on low-lifes, was well aware that Manafort was feeding info to Trump (i.e., was a triple-agent), Trump has decades of experience working with other low-lifes, and was feeding false impressions to Manafort while Trump was preparing his responses... Mueller May Have Just Found a Clever Way of Using Manafort to Bypass Matthew Whitaker. Mueller may have just sprung his "perjury trap."
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It’s too bad that Mueller's hands are tied regarding Trumps finances. It's my understanding that his directive is only to determine if Trump et al worked with the Russians during his presidential campaign. And nothing regarding his finances. Is this true? I am unclear on that.
What most Trump detractors really want to know is how deeply he is in bed with Russian and Saudi financiers. Amongst others. Is there any way that complete answers to those questions will ever see the light of day?
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Here's my take: Mueller can investigate issues that "arise from" his investigation of Russian interference. One of those issues is "why" members of the Trump campaign and others might have coordinated with Russians or others to compromise the election. Thus Paul Manafort's and Rick Gates' financial entanglements and crimes were within his ambit. If the same or similar issues arise with regard to Trump, the Trump organization, or Trump family members, it would appear to be within his authority, as endorsed by several federal courts.
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There is a book; House of Trump House of Putin. It lays it all out and everything in the book sourced and listed in a HUGE appendix. I may have this one backwards but Kellyanne is the granddaughter of a chief of the American mafia. The attorney (Cohen) is the grandson of the head of the American Russian mafia. That is just for starters. The jackass administration is, basically a criminal enterprise. There are now, I think, 3 law suits just over taking money from furreners. His various appointments, with few exceptions, are taking with both hands whatever isn't nailed down until it becomes so public that they have to be let go. ALL this kind of stuff is against the law! I would be absolutely amazed if Mueller hasn't been following up on all this stuff.
We have also been told that states attorney generals have been gifted, by Mueller and there are a number of them just waiting to have at it. He has also distributed more stuff to a number of federal prosecutors. I think this sort of stuff is just stuff that was not specific to Mueller's probe and I also tend to believe that there is a pile of this stuff just waiting for the right time to forge ahead. I suspect that time is when Mueller is done and there has been suggestions that time is getting close at hand. My supposition is that, when that happens, we will see not only Mueller getting indictments but both state AND federal folks doing the same.
I REALLY hope I am right!! (my history in the realm of prognostication is not all that great <sigh>)
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