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Trump claims in writing and under penalty of perjury that he had no business dealings with Russians after he became President, and then has Cohen admit in court that he did I don;t think that is what was claimed. June 2016 is during campaign. Mr trump lied about his business to reporters and his supporters. So what. His supporters don't care (and I suspect they love the fact he lies) and reporters file charges for lying. Other people may be liable for their testimony before Congress but I am sure the Trump family all have pardons good to go. I don;t give a flying frak about what happens to him AFTER he leaves office. I am not trying to get revenge. I want to protect America from what he is doing to it.
ignorance is the enemy without equality there is no liberty America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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The best protection for America until he leaves is the Democratic House. That's what we can do, and we did in spades. The next two years is going to be non-stop Hell for Trump. Countless lawsuits and congressional investigations, subpoenas, etc. Even the judges he thinks are "his" are going to disappoint him as to his illegal Executive Orders. Not a single law passed unless they can make it worth while to Democrats. I would not be surprised if he strokes out before it is over.
But I do want prosecutions when it is over. We need those to show everyone that we are a nation of laws, and that anybody who thinks they are above the law is not.
Sorry about the date confusion.
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It's the Despair Quotient! Carpal Tunnel
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“The guilty plea is 175 pages long. In my career, I have never seen one like this. It was so carefully crafted by Bob Mueller and signed by Paul Manafort, that at the time he pleaded guilty to the charges he was indicted for — which was basically bank fraud, money laundering, and some form of commercial bribery of foreign officials in federal court. He also pleaded guilty to uncharged state crimes in New Jersey, in Virginia and in California.” I almost wish Trump WOULD try to pardon Manafort, or someone, anyone. Fox News legal analyst stunned at how Mueller made it impossible for Trump to save Manafort Oh boo hoo hoo, so many lives have been ruined!! 
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His only hope is to drop dead or flee the country before then. Or to fire Mueller. McConnell has blocked legislation to prevent it. It would be a firestorm but he might survive it because the Senate won't turn on him.
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I don;t give a flying frak about what happens to him AFTER he leaves office. I am not trying to get revenge. I want to protect America from what he is doing to it. 
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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Oh no, I'm assuming somebody fires Mueller or slightly smarter, accepts his report and then sits on it. But the House subcommittees can subpoena Mueller and everything he has is public. Firing Mueller serves little purpose now. The House takes over the investigation seamlessly. State AGs file charges that can't be pardoned by the President. Manafort starts his (long) prison sentence in state prisons even if Trump pardons him, for state crimes he has already plead guilty to. Even if the Senate refuses to act, it just makes it worse for them in 2020. Democrats would take the Senate AND the Presidency.
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With Michael Cohen spending 70 hours with the prosecutor staff I just wonder. Cohen was selling access to the president for 100,000+ each. I have no idea how many accesses he sold but, I suspect, a goodly amount. Given the Jackass proclivity to run criminal enterprises I would not be surprised to learn that he took a little 'taste' for every access sold. (this is, we have been told over the years, how mob bosses get rich) Think on it - the president of the United States taking money for access to himself!
Anyway, just a thought............
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I like the Representative Duke Cunningham approach: He actually had a price list up on his office wall! His definition of an honest politician was one who stays bought once you've paid the bribe.
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Nice article on Slate: How Devin Nunes Helped Robert Mueller The irony of this new situation is that, as Susan Hennessey has observed, outgoing House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, Rep. Mike Conaway (who purportedly led the Russia inquiry after Nunes’ quasi-recusal), lead interrogator Trey Gowdy, and the other GOP members of the committee may, wholly unintentionally, prove to have been devastatingly effective questioners in the service of future false-statement prosecutions. Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee really encouraged Trump associates to lie, implying that there would be no consequences. They have even refused to send their hearing transcripts to Mueller, to impede him. But in January, Democrats will do that, first thing. Then Mueller will have scads of perjury charges he can use to flip witnesses.
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