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Started right from the campaign when the RNC took their Russia sanction language out of their platform at the Trump teams urging... Started in the mid-80s, actually. Trump has ALWAYS wanted a Tower in Moscow. 
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Keep in mind these events:
Donald Trump fired [then-FBI Director] James Comey. The very next day, laughed about the firing with two Russian diplomats in the Oval Office and later Trump said to Lester Holt on NBC that Comey was fired because of the Russian Investigation contrary to what the WH was saying at the time - it was because of the way that Comey handled the Clinton investigation.
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Near as I can tell, Trump has had business dealings in Russia and with Russians for a long time. His natural instinct would be to protect those interests and to generally keep them under wraps. This is where I see the path to "no collusion".
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Remember, there were a number of sealed indictments, in at least 2 courts. Now there are claims that there are no sealed indictments but no proof that is true (more speculation). We will, of course, learn the truth in the fullness of time <G>
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No collusion, but not guilt-free for Obstruction of Justice. I'll take it.
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The Russians wanted Trump to be elected pres., there is no question in my mind as to that! The Russian slanting of news in 2016 was clear and obvious.
Why? Nothing strange about that; with Trump in the White House a spanner was thrown into every aspect of American life for at least 4 years!
No further deviousness need be suspected.
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Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived
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The Russians wanted Trump to be elected pres., there is no question in my mind as to that! The Russian slanting of news in 2016 was clear and obvious.
Why? Nothing strange about that; with Trump in the White House a spanner was thrown into every aspect of American life for at least 4 years!
No further deviousness need be suspected.
. It says right in the email to Don Jr that the Russian government wishes to help Trump beat Hillary in the Trump Tower Meeting and is offering "dirt." Isn't that conspiracy to manipulate an election? 
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Word is out...No Collusion. Not enough evidence for an obstruction charge.
There ya go folks. The door just swung wide open for Trump's re-election.
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Word is out...No Collusion. Not enough evidence for an obstruction charge.
There ya go folks. The door just swung wide open for Trump's re-election. Welp, Trump's taxes and tariffs are tanking the economy. That will help.
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It's kind of gruesome to be hoping for a recession, but the sooner it happens the better. It took George Bush's fumbling administration a full eight years to bring down a bustling economy.
But he was busy starting wars with countries who never threatened us.
It might be a stretch to hope for Trump doing it in a single term.
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